Re: Wonderful Windows Zaps Banks/Transport/Media after "Update" Yesterday

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Sujet : Re: Wonderful Windows Zaps Banks/Transport/Media after "Update" Yesterday
De : blissInSanFrancisco (at) *nospam* mouse-potato.com (Bobbie Sellers)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 31. Jul 2024, 07:58:28
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On 7/30/24 22:30, candycanearter07 wrote:
John McCue <jmccue@hairball.jmcunx.com> wrote at 13:49 this Saturday (GMT):
followups trimmed to comp.os.linux.misc
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In comp.os.linux.misc yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:
"26yh.0712" <26yh.0713@e6t5y.net> writes:
>
   Ah ... wunnerful Winders  :-)
>
   It should be banned as a socioeconomic WMD ...
>
Imagine systemd swallowing package management, doing automagic
security updates and such a "MSLinux" monoculture.
>
I can see this happening, I think they just swallowed sudo.
 You mean polkit?
No he means "sudo" is going to be replaced with "run0."
<https://www.howtogeek.com/will-linux-run0-command-run-sudo-out-of-town/>
Not right away but sooner or later unless it causes even
more problems.  "Sudo" is a bad implementation which replaced "su".
which invoked superuser privileges.  You had to use  your root
account password but Ubuntu decided that was dangerous so to invoke
the same privileges you can use your user accont passwork.
Canonical thought apparently that it was asking too
much of their projected userbase to remember User account
password and root password.

 
Wouldn't that be similarly vulnerable?
>
Maybe, any complex solution is open to vulnerabilities.  I
think (hope) these changes would be tested better than
crowdstrike was.  But as things get more complex, the harder
to test :(
>
I still think these changes Red Hat is pushing is their way
to make things easier for admins, but to me, eventually you
end up with a Windows clone.  Now I wonder if they will "AI"
systemd, I think it is possible since IBM seems to be
getting into AI.
 That sounds like a nightmare. AI Systems...
Nightmare or some one's wet dream.
 
IMO "MSLinux" everywhere would have the same problem.
>
I think redundancy, diversity and reducing complexity is the right
answer.
>

The system on my computer uses SysV.init and "su".
bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.07- Linux 6.6.42- 5.27.11
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20 Jul 24 * Re: Wonderful Windows Zaps Banks/Transport/Media after "Update" Yesterday137John McCue
31 Jul 24 `* Re: Wonderful Windows Zaps Banks/Transport/Media after "Update" Yesterday136candycanearter07
31 Jul 24  +* Re: Wonderful Windows Zaps Banks/Transport/Media after "Update" Yesterday134Bobbie Sellers
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