Re: GNOME/Freedesktop/redhat incompetent or malicious influence

On 15/10/2024 09:19, D wrote:

  On Tue, 15 Oct 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
 

with far less money, and way more effectively.
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He almost caused Ukraine to lose by holding up the budget.

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Incorrect. They are still doing well, and it US would have backed down,
the EU would have ramped up.

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What with? It has no exonomy?
Its just a parasitic bureaucracy.
It does notr set Eripean natins foreign policy. It juts pretends thaqt it does.

 The european economy is $26.64 trillion (PPP). This is proven.
 

No, that is the sum of the econimies of thge natuions tha inhabit o the continent of Europe. One of which is Russsia
It us not e economy of the EU.

Exactly. The democrats are the true evil.

No. The true evil is greed, lust for power and fear of loss of privilege.
If you think Liberal versus Republican is evil versus good, you are already a controlled useful idiot
All your politicians are belong to us.

Wake up! ALL of your politicians are working for someone. That's how they got there.

 Irrelevant. We look at actions.

No, it is clear you do not. Even if you think you do.  Mike Johnson absolutely vilolated every norm of honorable and decent behaviors and cost thousands of lives by the disgraceful actions he took, that Trump supported.

Dont be silly. No European nation wants to put its military under EU control.
That's why they are in NATO.

 Europes countries can coordinate without the central EU, proven by joint Nato
military exercises, and joint exercises done outside of Nato, like
between sweden and finland.
 

Exactly my point. EU doesnt have a military, and its members don't want it to.
EU is compulsory, NATO is voluntary.

You seem to know very little of europe and how europe works. Are you
based in the US?
 

That was my question to you.

The EU economy is also about 15x larger than russias, and the population
is about 3x. If there's a full war, Russia will lose to badly, it will
embarass them for generations to come.
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The EU HAS NO ECONOMY. It is not the United states of Europe. It is nearer the United socialist Soviet republic of Europe. A remote entity trying to recreate the USSR by having a series of puppet states.

 $26.64 trillion (PPP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union .
 Proven.
 

 From that refeernce The 'economy of the European Union' is the joint economy of the member states of the European Union¨
I.e. it doesnt belong to the Union.  And the Union has little effect on how it is generated.
Youu seem to have no understanbding of European politics

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Putin knows that. That is why he is yelling and screaming, and doing the
minimum maximum he can out of fear of provoking europe to take action
against him.
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Europe is a continent. It can't take action.
The EU is a bureaucracy it has nothing to take action with

 Europe has countries which can take action. I will not write every
single individual country in every single post due to your uncharitable
nit picking.
 

But it makes a huge difference.  Fir example Hungary. Slovenia  and almost Germany have decided to limit Ukrainian support. Other counytries who know Vlad, like Poland and Estonia, have thrown huge resources into the pot.
The EU itself has done the square root of fuck all. A bit of humanitarian aid.
What the EU did manage to do was co-ordinate and prepare a set of sanctions that are slow but effective.

I do not think you are so stupid as to not be able to understand my
point with me having to write each country individually?
 

Because there *is* no point without mentioning each country individually.
The Czechs organised world wide black/grey  market purchase of artillery shells from unnamed sources using money donated by various other countries, to save the day when Mike Johnson fucked Ukraine at Russias behest by blocking the support of the whole of the USA.
Viktor Orban in Hungary has tried the same, but the EU is not the USA (although it would love to be) it doesn't represent the people of Europe, They have national governments. It doesn't control the defence of Europe, Individual nations in, or out of NATO or the EU, do that themselves . It doesn't even control the  economies of Europe, although it tries to.
It doesn't even have a single currency, though it wants to.

Only the sovereign nations of Europe can take action, and they are. FAR more than the USA

 Thank you. Proven.
 

Denmark and Estonia have contributed the most. Per capita. But they are small countries.

 See above. Europe has a common market.
 

The USA ranks 17th in net contributions per citizen. A miserly contribution.
Even Belgium has done better,
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303450/bilateral-aid-to-ukraine-in-a-percent-of-donor-gdp/

 Irrelevant.

Nto in te slightest.
Europe is contributing far far more per person to this war than the miserly USA is.

Donald is not some superman. He is just another egotistical little shit with his eye on the main chance. In the end no better than Obama.

 Do you have Trump Derangement Syndrome? I think it is stopping you from
perceiving the world correctly.
 

Better put yiur shades on an not stand behind him when he driops his pants

 It is. See above. Read carefully and repent.

All your examples show exactlyt why the EU is not a nation  or a miultray power as you seem to think it is.

 

"The European army or EU army are terms for a hypothetical army of the European Union which would supersede the Common Security and Defence Policy and would go beyond the proposed European Defence Union. Currently, there is no such army, and defence is a matter for the member states. "
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_army

 Irrelevant.

Totally relevant

Europe dioesnt exist as a country. They are already pulling way above their weight.

 Irrelevant see above.

Realebant

Leaving Ukraine in the shit.

 No, he is training europe to grow up and take responsibility. That is
actually brilliant.
 

It us Europe who is taking responsibility and the Donald who is deliberately absolving himself of it preferring to simply parraot Russian propagandas (as you are)

You are woefully ill informed.

 You are ill informed and it has been proven.

Nope, It is clear you are either trolling, a trump supporter who has replaced reason with religious faith, or in Putins pocket
You don't understand the politics of Russia, or of Ukraine, or of Europe or of the EU, how any of their economies are run, how their military are organised or who ultimately controls it.
In fact you don't even seem to understand the politics of the USA. Except in a very childlike and unsophisticated way.
Hint. The guys in the white hats are the baddies too, sometimes.
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