Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?

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Sujet : Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 24. Nov 2024, 15:25:10
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186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
On 11/23/24 4:25 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
That’s irrelevant.  Pipes originated on the earliest Unix machine,
which was a PDP-11 with only a 64kiB address space.  They work great
for pumping around gigabytes of data, but you don’t need
gigabyte-sized memory buffers to do that.
 
  It all has to be SOMEWHERE ... if not in RAM then
  on a mass storage device.

Nope, at least not with pipes.

  Of course 'gigabytes' ALL AT ONCE -vs- "a little at a time, added
  up" are entirely different things.

"A little at a time, added up" is exactly what pipes give you, and is
what allows processing gigabytes of total data, without also needing
gigabytes of memory (or disk) to do the processing.

I regularly re-encode video files using a pipeline of several image
filters from the mjpegtools package, ending up with a pipe to x264 for
final compression (for size reduction purposes).

The source files tend to be around 2-5G.  The pipes between the image
filters, and the final pipe to the x264 compressor transfers raw
uncompressed YUV data.

The raw uncompressed YUV data for an hours worth of 1080p video is
about 336GiB of data (way more data than I have RAM to store it all,
and slightly more than the total free space available right now on the
1.9T disk I run the encodes from).  Not one byte of that 336GiB of raw
YUV data that passes through the pipes ever touches disk storage.  The
only data in disk files are the source, compressed, video file, and the
final result, also compressed, video file.

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18 Nov 24 * Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?76186282@ud0s4.net
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3D
20 Nov 24 i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2186282@ud0s4.net
20 Nov 24 i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1D
18 Nov 24 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Pancho
18 Nov 24 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?48Rich
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?47Phillip Frabott
20 Nov 24 i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?46Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?45Phillip Frabott
21 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?44Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?43Phillip Frabott
21 Nov 24 i     +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?20Richard Kettlewell
22 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?19Phillip Frabott
22 Nov 24 i     i +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?17Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?16vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?9vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i `* Named pipes vs. Unix sockets (was: Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?)8vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i  `* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets7vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i   +- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i i   `* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets5Phillip Frabott
22 Nov 24 i     i i i    +* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Nov 24 i     i i i    i`* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets2Phillip Frabott
23 Nov 24 i     i i i    i `- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24 i     i i i    `- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Rich
23 Nov 24 i     i i  +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3vallor
23 Nov 24 i     i i  i+- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
23 Nov 24 i     i i  i`- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Nov 24 i     i i  `- Pipes v. FIFOs (was: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?)1Geoff Clare
22 Nov 24 i     i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell
21 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?22Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i      `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?21186282@ud0s4.net
22 Nov 24 i       `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?20Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Nov 24 i        `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?19186282@ud0s4.net
23 Nov 24 i         `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Nov 24 i          `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?17186282@ud0s4.net
23 Nov 24 i           +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Nov 24 i           i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Carlos E.R.
23 Nov 24 i           i +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2Fritz Wuehler
24 Nov 24 i           i i`- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Carlos E.R.
24 Nov 24 i           i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Nov 24 i           i  `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Carlos E.R.
23 Nov 24 i           `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?10The Natural Philosopher
23 Nov 24 i            `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Nov 24 i             `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?8186282@ud0s4.net
24 Nov 24 i              +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Nov 24 i              `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?6Rich
24 Nov 24 i               `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Lew Pitcher
24 Nov 24 i                +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
24 Nov 24 i                `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3Richard Kettlewell
24 Nov 24 i                 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Carlos E.R.
24 Nov 24 i                 `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
20 Nov 24 `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?22Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24  `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?21186282@ud0s4.net
3 Dec 24   +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24   i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2186282@ud0s4.net
4 Dec 24   i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24   `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?17Pancho
14 Dec 24    `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?16root
14 Dec 24     `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?15The Natural Philosopher
17 Dec14:34      `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?14Geoff Clare
18 Dec02:23       `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Dec05:25        `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?12186282@ud0s4.net
18 Dec06:01         `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?11Rich
18 Dec06:12          +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Robert Riches
18 Dec15:03          i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?4Rich
19 Dec05:27          i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3Robert Riches
19 Dec15:07          i  `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2Rich
19 Dec16:02          i   `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1D
18 Dec09:27          `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Richard Kettlewell
18 Dec15:02           `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?4Rich
18 Dec17:11            `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3John Ames
18 Dec17:51             +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
18 Dec19:32             `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell

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