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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:I used to think so, but I think that the Arab states at least are very close to empty, and we don't want to buy Russian oil - the price is too high.
On 09/12/2024 20:50, D wrote:Amen! But I don't think the fossil fuel scarcity is too much of a problem, and that there's enough left for at least a generation or two.>>
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>On 09/12/2024 09:53, D wrote:>Swedens government has now decided that sweden shall have new, working nuclear power in 10 years.>
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I would bet several hundred euros against this being done on time.
I'm not so sure.
At the moment Rolls Royce is going through the red tape box ticking exercise on their reactors.
They want to deploy the first ones by 2030.
The Czech Republic is working with RR on this as well
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There is a huge potential market for the first companies to put together scalable small modular reactors that are in mass production.
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Build your concrete structures, pop in a boiler and turbines and some generators and ship a complete reactor in, and plug it in to a factory produced control system, and that's it.
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5 years top's is the aim
This is the government. No SMR:s in sight. They are thinking about "safe" traditional ones.
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If they get it done in 10 years, and if they dare to explore SMR:s, I will be happily proven wrong.
Sweden is small enough to be reasonably governed by people who don't get too puffed with self importance.
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I think the salient points for Europe are:-
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- Net Zero is pie in the sky. It ain't gonna happen.
- Renewable energy is pie in the sky, and massively expensive overall. It ain't gonna happen either.
- further reliance on fossil fuels is fraught with danger since by and large Western Europe doesnt have any.
- All the Nordic hydro is pretty much exploited as well as alpine and in the Iberian peninsula.
- All that is left is nuclear, and the point of SMR is to reduce build time and hence cost.
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We have to use what fossil is left to bootsrtap the nuclear economy.
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Note I didn't use the phrase 'climate change' anywhere above. It is *supremely irrelevant.'
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The greater issue is the growing scarcity of fossil fuel
But it won't be a big bang, plenty of technologies exist to bridge the gap.Its almost possible. The problem is all that lead makes it even heaver than a BEV and you have to stop to fill up the water just as often.
Would be cool if I could finally have a nuclear powered car that I bought full, and would never have to refuel. ;)
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