Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, Rich wrote:
 

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

It is so strange.  Your program fails the most nr of people, and
has the most nr of people leave the program.  This is bad. 
However...  when we look at if the students get jobs after their
education, your program has a 100% job ratio, and all of your
students get salaries above the average for their age group.  This
is so strange!

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“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary
depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something
>
This is why college success measures should be based upon how
employable their graduates are.  Gone (or seriously reduced in size)
would be all the degree programs that don't produce gainfully
employable graduates.
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Instead the measure is how much student loan money they can hoover
out of each student during the student's time on campus.  And by
that measure they are all resounding successes.

 
Amen!
 
It is sad that the elite universities have a monopoly on networking. 
That's basically the only value you get out of those programs.
 
If it weren't for the networking part, any smart young man could get
a really good education with all the free books and course material
that's out on the internet, except (I guess) for practical
disciplines that requires extensive labs.
 
But computer science should be perfectly possible to reach a very
high level by yourself using only your laptop and the internet.  But
you won't get the networking and connections though.

Nor get the "magic sheet of paper" that says you passed all the rote
memorization tests.

And with so many jobs requiring the "magic sheet of paper" to even
quallify to apply, it would be hard for that 'self taught' CS person to
get their foot in the door to show that they were as good (or, from
what I've seen, likely better) as many of the H1B's the company is
otherwise hiring.