Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.

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Sujet : Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.
De : lew.pitcher (at) *nospam* digitalfreehold.ca (Lew Pitcher)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 31. Mar 2024, 20:15:34
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On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 14:51:06 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 13:38:32 -0400, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
 
David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:05:58 -0400, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
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On 3/31/24 08:38, John McCue wrote:
Thanks, here is another interesting link that describes how the issue
occurred and indicates why *BSD and Distros like Slackware would not
be vulnerable.
>
My understanding is that effectively the differentiating factor of if a
distro is impacted or not is if it uses systemd or not.
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sshd supports compression. xz is an option for how things are compressed.
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ssh supports zlib compression.  It (ssh) does not offer lzma/xz as a
compression option.
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xz got pulled into ssh on systemd systems because systemd supports
using xz/lzma for journald compression, and it is therefore a
dependency of libsystemd.  Some distros patch sshd to link to
libsystemd so that their sshd can "notify" systemd that it is up via a
call to a libsystemd function.
 
Perhaps ssh is only impacted on systemd systems, but anything processing
untrusted xz compressed files, such as clamav is still vulnerable, so the
statement that only systems using systemd are vulnerable is not correct.
 
Any system using xz 5.6.0 or 5.6.1 is vulnerable.

In theory, yes. And, "its better to be safe than sorry"

But, from my (admittedly very limited) understanding of the backdoor (as
currently exposed), the bad code in xz specifically targets sshd, and (from
current indications) no other application.

Still, if I had one of the suspicious xz/liblzma packages installed, I'd
not hesitate to "nuke it from orbit" and replace it with a known-good version.

Again, "its better to be safe than sorry".

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

Date Sujet#  Auteur
30 Mar 24 * Malware find in the news: xz related.59pH
30 Mar 24 +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Woozy Song
30 Mar 24 +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Eli the Bearded
31 Mar 24 i`- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Computer Nerd Kev
31 Mar 24 +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.25MarioCCCP
31 Mar 24 i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.24Computer Nerd Kev
31 Mar 24 i `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.23Computer Nerd Kev
31 Mar 24 i  +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.16D
31 Mar 24 i  i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.15Lew Pitcher
31 Mar 24 i  i +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.12Nuno Silva
31 Mar 24 i  i i+- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Lew Pitcher
31 Mar 24 i  i i+- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Rich
31 Mar 24 i  i i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.9Richard Kettlewell
1 Apr 24 i  i i `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.8Carlos E.R.
1 Apr 24 i  i i  `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.7Rich
2 Apr 24 i  i i   `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.6Carlos E.R.
6 Apr 24 i  i i    `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.5MarioCCCP
6 Apr 24 i  i i     `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.4Rich
6 Apr 24 i  i i      `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.3The Natural Philosopher
7 Apr 24 i  i i       +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Computer Nerd Kev
8 Apr 24 i  i i       `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Rich
31 Mar 24 i  i +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1D
6 Apr 24 i  i `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Popping Mad
31 Mar 24 i  +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Woozy Song
31 Mar 24 i  `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.5Carlos E.R.
31 Mar 24 i   +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1David W. Hodgins
31 Mar 24 i   `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.3D
31 Mar 24 i    `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Carlos E.R.
1 Apr 24 i     `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1D
31 Mar 24 `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.30John McCue
31 Mar 24  `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.29Grant Taylor
31 Mar 24   +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.11David W. Hodgins
31 Mar 24   i+* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.8Rich
31 Mar 24   ii`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.7David W. Hodgins
31 Mar 24   ii `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.6Lew Pitcher
31 Mar 24   ii  `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.5Marco Moock
31 Mar 24   ii   `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.4Grant Taylor
31 Mar 24   ii    +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1David W. Hodgins
1 Apr 24   ii    `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Marco Moock
1 Apr 24   ii     `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Grant Taylor
31 Mar 24   i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Grant Taylor
31 Mar 24   i `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Marc Haber
31 Mar 24   `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.17Rich
31 Mar 24    +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.4David W. Hodgins
31 Mar 24    i+* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Grant Taylor
31 Mar 24    ii`- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Richard Kettlewell
31 Mar 24    i`- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1D
31 Mar 24    +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.7Carlos E.R.
31 Mar 24    i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.6D
31 Mar 24    i +* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.4Carlos E.R.
31 Mar 24    i i`* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.3Computer Nerd Kev
1 Apr 24    i i +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1candycanearter07
1 Apr 24    i i `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1John Dallman
6 Apr 24    i `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Popping Mad
31 Mar 24    `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.5Grant Taylor
1 Apr 24     +- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1Rich
1 Apr 24     `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.3Marco Moock
7 Apr 24      `* Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.2Carlos E.R.
7 Apr 24       `- Re: Malware find in the news: xz related.1John Dallman

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