Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder

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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024, Borax Man wrote:
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On 2024-07-04, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On 2024-07-04, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

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On Wed, 3 Jul 2024, RabidPedagog wrote:
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On 2024-07-03 6:05 p.m., SugarBug wrote:

NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors,
forces abdication of founder
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40870314
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I found a youtube version of this article being read by a gray-bearded
tech nerd with a Hawaiian shirt: https://youtu.be/KsDYul3J3Dc
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Maybe I should pop a pineapple pizza in the oven and watch the drama.

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Darn, I thought I was the first to post this.

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Are there any non-political distributions to switch to? Since I'm a free
speech extremist I'm against all projects that ban conservative, nazis and
communists who contribute.

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Most people in "tech" seem to be insufferable progressives.
Unfortunately people now seem to think that everything they touch, and
everything they get involved in, needs to be "activist".  What
distribution are you using at the moment?

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Sigh, yes this is true. But, at least I am benefiting from this. My
company has a strict "no woke" policy, and due to that, I get highly
skilled people to work for me as consultants who would throw up if they
had to work for big IT with their woke ideology! =)
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I use opensuse at the moment, but based on what I've read they've gone
woke. So next time I reinstall it is probably time to change.
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Based on very shallow research it looks as if perhaps Alpine linux and
Freebsd might be two communities who don't explicitly reject
conservatives.
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I'm using Debian, and I haven't seen anything overtly political, but
then, I haven't looked into it that deep.

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Ah, maybe that could be another haven perhaps!

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Double check FreeBSD.  I thought they signed up to the woke "Contributor
Covenant" if I recall correctly.  That CoC is an explicitely political
and divisive CoC which is specifically designed, as stated by its very
own creator, to end "meritocracy".  People that don't know better let
these wolves in sheeps clothing into their organisation and poison it.

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Thank you for the warning! Let me have a look...
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This is what they have:
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     be friendly and patient,
     be welcoming,
     be considerate,
     be respectful,
     be careful in the words that you choose and be kind to others,
     when we disagree, try to understand why.
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I see nothing wrong with that... continued...
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Be careful in the words that you choose and be kind to others. Do not
insult or put down other participants. Harassment and other exclusionary
behavior aren¢t acceptable. This includes, but is not limited to:
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     Violent threats or language directed against another person.
     Discriminatory jokes and language.
     Posting sexually explicit or violent material.
     Posting (or threatening to post) other people¢s personally identifying
information ("doxing").
     Personal insults, especially those using racist or sexist terms.
     Unwelcome sexual attention.
     Advocating for, or encouraging, any of the above behavior.
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I can live with the above, _however_, the proof of the pudding is in the
eating. If conservatives and libertarians have beenkicked out of the
project, while homos and trans people stay after rubbing peoples faces in
their weirdness, then it is apparent that the above is only directed
against some isms and not others.
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So I've seen worse than Freebsd, but it does have a slight bias against
pro-trans people at the expense of conservative although it is not that
pronouced I'd say.
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In terms of other BSDs I think the most hardcore tech-focused as in "shut
up and code" might be OpenBSD. I doubt they've had many trans-battles
there due to their benevolent dictator for life setup.
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Too bad they have a crappy filesystems, otherwise Openbsd could be a nice
project to join as well.

The problem is that these are the thin edge of the wedge.  Activists
insert these, so they can militantly enforce them.  The FreeBSD one
isn't too far from the Covenant Code.

Take for instance

 In addition, violations of this code outside these spaces may, in rare cases, affect a person’s ability to participate within them, when the conduct amounts to an egregious violation of this code.

This means that something you say, on your own terms, on your own
platform, can get you kicked off.  They say "rare", but we've seen this
before, where someone gets hammered because they support a value or
position which is seen to not be welcoming to all the people in the "Be
Welcoming" section.  Did you say you were for border control on Twitter
using your own personal handle?  That is not welcoming to those of every
"immigration status".

These codes may be harmless, amongst reasonable people, but get an SJW
in the organisation, and they become weaponized.

The Code should ideally, just tell you what gets you kicked out, a
simple list of rules of what is a definite no-go, rather than a vague
call for good behaviour.  Why bring religion, sexual orientation,
immigration status, etc, EXPLICITELY into it?  Also, the fact they use
"immigration status" is telling, that is clearly a far-left position.
Some people don't accept illegal immigration, or consider homosexuality
moral, or approve of certain religions, etc, that is their right.  Just
don't allow these subjects to be discussed.  Instead, you're supposed to
assume a "welcoming" position, which presumes participants have adopted
a specific, lets say, progressive Silicon Valley set of morals.

People should have the right to think freely, and express themselves.  I
see no issue with a code that says "don't talk
politics/religion/sexuality in this technical forum", but increasingly
we are seeing organisations have conduct codes that *presume* certain
values and require everyone to adhere to those values.