Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder

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De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
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Date : 06. Jul 2024, 12:42:04
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On Sat, 6 Jul 2024, Borax Man wrote:

On 2024-07-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 05/07/2024 18:15, D wrote:
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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On 05/07/2024 11:29, D wrote:
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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I see this quite often in my line of work, this condescension towards
the uneducated, that people only vote a particular way because of
ignorance of fear.  Worse, is that this mentality is now promoted and
coddled, workplaces now champion themselves as promoters of a "social
good", which gives those who work there an even bigger head.
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The only people who vote for delusion are the champagne socialists
with their Art degrees and their moral 'issues'
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This is the truth! Most extreme tech-socialists I've met live in houses,
have at least 2 cars, and are generally very well off. Often they do
have big public sector customers who help them fund their life styles.
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It is also completely impossible to discuss why their politics is
irrational and damaging to society at large, because they are such huge
winners of the current system.
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However... and here is where it gets interesting!
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I know one socialist from a working class background, and he is the only
socialist I know who it is actually possible to discuss politics with!
Needless to say, we've ended up in the agree to disagree box quite
often, but from time to time we actually do agree on something.
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A late friend was a rampant sort of lower middle class Scottish raving
socialist of the red union sort. He became a local councillor, and
said that 'the only people who ever got things done were the Tory
squirearchy.
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And yet he was overjoyed when Blair got in.
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I finally realised that what appealed was the ideology. The fact that
Labour never has and never will solve a single social problem it
identifies as 'crucial' meant nothing to him
It was the thought, that counted.
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Virtue signalling, not practical politics.
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Socialists are the ultimate cat-bellers.  Full of solutions that
cannot be implemented or won't work if they are.
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And sadly that became the game of the Tories too, which is why they
have been given the finger. All mouth and no trousers.
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This is true. Socialism has been refuted historically (it has never
worked), logically (it is self-contradictory)  and scientifically (it
has been proven by economists not to work). Yet, the masses insist on
believing it.
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The reason is that it is a religion where the leaders promise heaven on
earth, here and now, and workers who don't like their lives, hope that
this time it will be different, which of course it never is.
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But who knows? Maybe humanity will learn one day?
Socialism is essentially paternalistic slavery. Everyone works for the
gummint, and the gummint tells them what to think do and say and 'sees
them right'.
Except  somehow it never does...
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If you want people to support Capitalism, they must have Capital.  Many
people have little to no Capital... soo...
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I can't blame young people for turning to Socialism.  They'll never own
a house, never have any wealth, why should they care?
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By the way, I struggle to see our system working, it is failing
miserably too.
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The thing is... with capitalism and free markets, people will soon earn capital. Hong Kong used to be a backwards island, they started with sweat shops and unregulated capitalism, and finished by becoming the worlds financial center with the highest salaries in the world (before china took over). What made that possible was unregulated capitalism, since the backwards island could then bootstrap itself to wealth within a few generations.
More about that in Johan Norbergs in defense of global capitalism, and the capitalist manifesto, if you are interested.
As for the young, they are sold lies, and since they are young and lack life experience, it is of course a nicer lie that the government will give them everything, without having to work for it, than manning up and go to work.

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4 Jul 24 * Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder62Borax Man
4 Jul 24 +* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder52The Natural Philosopher
5 Jul 24 i`* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder51Borax Man
5 Jul 24 i `* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder50The Natural Philosopher
5 Jul 24 i  +* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder45D
5 Jul 24 i  i+* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder37The Natural Philosopher
5 Jul 24 i  ii`* Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder36D
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