Re: NixOS commits a "purge" of "Nazi" contributors, forces abdication of founder

On Sun, 7 Jul 2024, Borax Man wrote:

The thing is... with capitalism and free markets, people will soon earn
capital. Hong Kong used to be a backwards island, they started with sweat
shops and unregulated capitalism, and finished by becoming the worlds
financial center with the highest salaries in the world (before china took
over). What made that possible was unregulated capitalism, since the
backwards island could then bootstrap itself to wealth within a few
generations.
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More about that in Johan Norbergs in defense of global capitalism, and the
capitalist manifesto, if you are interested.
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As for the young, they are sold lies, and since they are young and lack
life experience, it is of course a nicer lie that the government will give
them everything, without having to work for it, than manning up and go to
work.
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Well, the thing is we HAVE Capitalism and Free Markets and Capital is
being accumulated by the few.  Now if you are going to use that "this is
not true Free Markets", then sorry, then you sound like all the
Communists who say that Russia and China and North Korea are "not true
Communism".  If your ideology can only ever work in an utterly pure
form, its faulty, because that pure form will never be realised in
practice.

I will use the "this is not free markets". Just go to heritage
foundation and sort countries based on size of governments. In the west,
the governments are _huge_, the regulatory burden is _huge_, politicians
decide which companies will be big or not since governments are enormous
actors on the markets.
Actually, what you are complaining about is socialism with some markets
added on the side. That is why your children have the future ahead of
them that you describe.
Due to high taxes, they cannot save their way to becoming millionaires.
Companies use the government (either with willing or unwilling
politicians) to give themselves the ultimate edge. Politicians get rich
by doing that and getting board seats in return.
I'm sorry, but we have no free markets in the western world, and we are
seeing the results. If you think I claim "not true communism" then I do
not think it is profitable to continue this discussion, because your
definition of free markets and my definition are not even remotely
close, so we would just talk past each other.

I've spend enough time believing in, buying, reading these arguments,
they don't work, IN PRACTICE.  There is something to be said by letting
entrepreneurs be entrepreneurs, and there is something to be said by
letting creative people be creative, yes, but the current system is
based on Capital, not creativity and inventiveness.  You earn more money
monopolising houses than actually working.

No, the current system is based on government, and government control of
capital. When the government spending is 30% or 40% or 60% of the GDP,
you don't have a free market, you have the government deciding who the
millionaire will be, with some iron willed and smart entrepreneurs
playing the game in the free small pockets that remain.

I'm not buying these lies anymore.  I have a "good job", that I worked
damn hard to achieve, a managerial position, yet am worse off, while I
watch rent-seekers get everything.  I never took benefits, I did
everything right.  Screw that.

The lie I do not buy is that the government will fix everything. I see
politicians becoming richer and richer, I see regulations becoming more,
I see more and more government contracts being awarded to corporates who
are in bed with the government.
As I said, this is not my definition of free markets, this is my
definition of early stage socialism. And since this, as per your
message, seems to be what you mean with free markets, we will just talk
past each other.
What I do find interesting though, is that we see a lot of the same
problems, but we land in dramatically different solutions.