Re: The Tragedy Of systemd

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Sujet : Re: The Tragedy Of systemd
De : nntp (at) *nospam* fulltermprivacy.com (Phillip Frabott)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 09. Oct 2024, 01:45:37
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On 10/8/2024 16:38, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2024 15:15:11 -0400, Phillip Frabott wrote:
 
I don't think it's a bad thing that we have 2 systems to choose from.
Each has it's place. Personally, I'd love to see at least 3 more options
but I don't think that will happen any time soon.
 I've used both and don't really understand the hate for systemd but I've
never been burned by it.
I mean, yeah.. But I should also point out that I'm one of the few that probably doesn't have X11/Xorg default to open at boot and do everything I can not to use a Windowing system if I don't have to. I have been a CLI guy since the 90's and never left it. So I guess, in a way, I could be lobbed up with those anti-systemd haters only exchange that with X11/Xorg. Although I don't 'hate' X11/Xorg, I just don't like using it. But I'm not against others having access to it if they want.
A lot of times the anti-systemd crowd say that Systemd violates the Unix philosophy. I'll have to go back and read it again (it's probably been 25+ years since I've read the Unix manifesto) and see where Systemd violates it. But otherwise, options are options and it gets harder and harder for the "do-one-thing-only" requirement to hold in today's world. I mean, technically X11/Xorg violates Unix and I'm sure most of the anti-Systemd crowd use X11/Xorg so I can't really figure it out myself. But sometimes people have their fav and feel like the need to defend it from competition. That's just my view on it though. Someone can tell me otherwise if they would like.

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