Re: The Tragedy Of systemd

On 10/8/2024 22:15, Lars Poulsen wrote:

On 2024-10-09, Phillip Frabott <nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> wrote:

I'm not going to disagree. Systemd is complicated compared to InitV.
That being says, it always comes down to what people like and what works
for them.

 The old stuff that we remember from our youth is easy for us; to the
degree that we remember what we did 40 years ago, we don't need to read
the man pages.
 But redhat has funding from and obligations to groups that run large
datacenters that need to be managed from control desks based on
parameterized templates, and to support these needs, they built
something that works for that crowd.
 I just wish they had some simple articles that I could find that makes
it easier for me to find where thy put the things I need to edit to make
my SMALL and SIMPLE system to work in MY environment.
 Where is the per-network-device data that used to be in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts now? I know I am supposed to use
network-manager, but how does it play with ifconfig and "ip addr" and
"ip route"? The amount of documentation i need to read to do simple
things like making sure that my default route is correct on bootup is
daunting. So instead I put a startup file in /etc/rc.d/rc.local or
the root crontab "@reboot", even though I am sure there is a systemd
service definition I am supposed to make a simple edit to.

Yeah, and again it's what works for you. Use it. You know, why use Systemd if InitV works well for you and you know how to use it? That's why I like having more then one option, and your reply proves the point I'm making. People should stop worrying about if Systemd vs InitV vs Upstart vs Launchd, vs etc etc is better or not. People needs to just use what works for them and don't worry about what other people use. I think the anti-systemd crowd (and I should say the same for the anti-initV crowd too because there are a lot of them around too) need to just do what they think is best for them and their systems and stop worrying about what others use. But that's just me.
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Phillip Frabott
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