Re: GNOME/Freedesktop/redhat incompetent or malicious influence

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Sujet : Re: GNOME/Freedesktop/redhat incompetent or malicious influence
De : tnp (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 13. Oct 2024, 13:04:00
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Organisation : A little, after lunch
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On 13/10/2024 10:50, D wrote:
  On Sun, 13 Oct 2024, rbowman wrote:
 
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 22:55:37 +0200, D wrote:
>
I often wonder if the community oriented people will turn to BSD, or if
there will be a new kind of "big bang" that will generate something new,
that will take off with lightning speed?
>
https://thenewstack.io/open-source-needs-younger-maintainers-how-can-it-
get-them/
>
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the next big bang for operating
systems. For that matter Linux and *BSD have been more like a 50 year slow
burn than any sort of bang if you consider Unix to be the progenitor.
>
 I would argue linux was a big bang.
I wouldn't. We'd been using Unix for years for bigger iron than a single user PC. It was pretty well organised in every area except its commercial existence.
Too much Lawfare.
As soon as a Lawfare free Linux and BSD came out, people who had used Unix grabbed it an carried on the worlds Big Iron fed up with being sued decided that not owning Linux was a fair price to pay for no one else owning it either.
As for open source maintainers, this
is good! There is of course no responsibility, and I think perhaps companies will learn what they are basing their products on, in case a maintainer disappears.
 If there's a need, a way will be found.
 But looking at the developers I meet today, the vast majority are javascript and python ninjas.
Java as well, but plenty of C++ ers around.

 The ones I know who do C, rust and are generally brilliant are:
 1. Few.
2. Older.
 I agree that if that is part of a trend, many open source projects will slowly die over the years, and as you say, the chance of a new OS from scratch is perhaps also lower.
 
Writing a new limited scope OS is not that hard (at least for younger programmers) on something like a Pi Pico or Arduino.
The problem with linux is that it comes with all options available, and being able to run 10,000 users or web sessions is not relevant to a PI Zero running a domestic heating controller.
Most people accept this and throw in enough RAM to run the standard kernel and dont try to modify it in anyway. The game is not worth the candle.
I have a domestic heating contraller with a potential performance equal to a VAX 11/70? so what?
It only cost $20

But there is this Ladybug browser, with the associated OS, can that be something?
--
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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