Re: GNOME/Freedesktop/redhat incompetent or malicious influence

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Date : 14. Oct 2024, 10:37:49
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2024, Phillip Frabott wrote:

france it is illegal for them to give away their software since it risks
outcompeting the local competition. But I have not checked this, so
caveat emptor.
 
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I haven't done a lot of looking into this, but I have heard the same. I seriously doubt Microsoft will actually comply with this though. Teams and Office are their bread and butter and if they were to do it, it would be at a higher price tag more likely. Either Microsoft will pay France off at some point or they will threaten to pull out of France. If France uses Office and Teams in important sectors they will likely cave. It'll be interesting to look into this over the next 6 months and see what happens.
I think this has existed for quite a while, and nothing has happened, so
I think that probably you are right here. The law exists, ready to be
used, but they realize they cannot push too hard.

There is of course a down side to all of this, and that is that the EU is regulating it's tech sector out of existence, so all skilled technologists, in time, will become employed by non-EU companies, since there will be no point in starting a tech company in europe, only to be at risk of high fines for the slightest mistake.
 
 In my opinion we are starting to see that transition here in the US as well. They are starting with the large corporations (which I think they already have taken over) but will eventually move to the medium/ small businesses over time. I hope it doesn't happen because then it's just evil running all of us. But we'll have to see over then next couple elections what happens.
 Really?! This was news to me. Usually I read in european pro-business
papers, that in the US all is well, and the EU is flushed down the
drain, so it was very interesting to hear. On the other hand, lawfare
and regulatory capture is a US national sport, so perhaps the driving
force behind that are the big corporations in order to stop any
competition from developing.
 
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Heh, The government controls the news and most of the media here. (specifically the democratic party). Facebook, Google, and Microsoft all do the Government's bidding and the only reason why Twitter stopped being a Government puppet is because Elon purchased it and kicked the Government out (government has been going after Elon ever since). I should note that our Government power is in Democrat hands right now. Democrats will deny this is happening but you can do the research and look into things beyond the surface and you can find the truth of it. This election between Kamala and Trump will decide the fate of the US. If Kamala wins the Government will shift to either a Nationalist Socialist country or a Communist Socialist country depending on certain other factors. If Trump wins we will remain a Republic Capitalist country. Despite what the media says, word on the ground is Trump is winning hearts and minds and personally I think that's good for our country. We'll see what happens in the next few weeks. (Our elections are Nov 5th)
I agree with you analysis. Also note that Trump winning will be the
absoultely best outcome for europe in the long term. If the (social)
democrats win, they will continue to pay for europes security problems
and wars, so europe will never learn to take responsibility for its own
security and neighboring crazy countries. If Trump wins, a clear message
will be sent that its time for europe to shape up, since the US will no
longer pay for everything.
Contrary to popular belief, that will actually create a safer and more
stable world, than the EU constantly leaning on the US.

I wonder where the next wave of tech startups will come from? Perhaps
Milei will manage to drain the swamp in Argentina, and Argentina will
become the innovation power house of the planet? Talk about something
unexpected, if that were to happen!
 
In my opinion, the EU will become a museum where rich tourists from the rest of the world will go to experience food and culture. There will of course be a tail of tech jobs in heavy industry, but all innovation will leave the EU if its current socialist and pro- regulation agenda continues for long.
 I fear this is coming to the US as well. "We the people" need to vote out the politicians that are supporting this cause. But the issue is the younger generations seem to want this to happen. Sadly I don't think they realize how bad this is going to be for us over here but they won't realize it until it's too late I'm afraid.
 Sad to hear it. And is it still the case that neither US party has any
intention of actually lowering the debt of the country? If not, I would
imagine that it eventually will reach a level at which the credit rating
agencies cannot ignore it any longer, and that day will certainly send
shock waves throughout the global economy! =/
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Despite what the media says Trump is our better bet in this regard. The issue is, because of democrat spending over the last 2 decades (they have held office 12 out of the 20 years) it would take at least 2-3 republican presidential terms to stop the bleed and break even. probably another 2 terms to start lowering the debt. There is just so much waste happening that the best Trump can do in 4 years (assuming he gets into the office again, fingers crossed) is slow down the spending. It will take another republican president 2 more terms (8 years) to get all the rest of the waste out of our government budget to get to 0/0 each year. It would also cost us a lot of social services that go to people who really don't need them. Don't get my wrong, there are legitimate cases and I believe we should take care of our people but in my opinion, we spend 30% of those services on people who actually need it and 70% on people who don't. I mean, I could get on social services right now if I wanted to and get $660 a month for free and continue working my job. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with me (and I do very well for myself financially so if someone like me can get $660 a month you know money is being wasted). If we get rid of that 70% junk spending then we'd probably cut a large portion of our spending down.
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Sorry, got off topic there..
Very interesting! Usually you read in europe that all is doom and gloom
and that the US will collapse. I'm happy to hear that there is light in
the tunnel as long as the republicans win.
As for democrats winning, I really do fear for the future of the US. It
seems like they will completely obliterate the working classes and
consolidate wealth in the political class and their sycophants.

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