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On 15/10/2024 09:10, D wrote:No proof, no talk.On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:>
On 14/10/2024 20:48, D wrote:Proof please. Then we talk.On Mon, 14 Oct 2024, rbowman wrote:It is also extremely short sighted.
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 11:46:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:This is the truth!
The problem is that the altenative - the Doonald, will weaken the USAIt won't happen but I consider that a plus point. Neither the Ukraine or
globally by becoming isolationist.
Israel are US states, let alone Haiti, Somalia, and other seflf
destructive third world states.
And the USA is not part of Putin's Empire - yet.
How *much* does the Orange Jesus owe Mr Vlad?
More, or less, than Barack Obama?
Er. a question doesn't have a 'proof'
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Why would Putin and his FSB chums *not* funnel funds/blackmail/otherwise compromise/ to affect, support or purchase politicians in other nations in order to shape their political processes to suit Russian needs?
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The CIA does *exactly* that. I am sure MI5 does. I would be upset if they did not.
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We saw as blatant and disgraceful an attempt by the Speaker of your House to utterly disrupt the USAs political process in favour of Russia as we did in OUR house to favour the European Union.
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Why this naive need to believe that you have finally found the One True Incorruptible politician who is really on your side?
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Bless!
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We have a government website called 'they work for you'
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https://www.theyworkforyou.com/
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Do they work for us? Do they fuck!
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In terms of what motivates a politician, the *last* people they are working for is you.
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Only very rarely does someone with some idea of what 'national interest' *really* means turn up, and they are regarded by their fellow politicians as extremely dangerous people.
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Whatever else he may be, Trump is certainly beholden to Putin. So too via Hunter, may have been Joe Biden.
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I think I read somewhere that the *majority* of politicians in the main German political party had all been to Russia on expense paid trips, and no doubt entertained by athletic 'Natashas' in the absence of their stolid German wives...
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This is how the world works.
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Democracy us about sacking the worst before they can do as much damage to your country as Putin has done to Russia.
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