Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints

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De : Pancho.Jones (at) *nospam* proton.me (Pancho)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 16. Oct 2024, 08:23:45
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On 10/16/24 07:38, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 10/15/24 7:06 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/10/2024 07:43, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
The question is how EXACT the precision HAS to be for
   most "AI" uses. Might be safe to throw away a few
   decimal points at the bottom.
>
My thesis is that *in some applications*, more low quality calculations bets a fewer high quality ones anyway.
I wasn't thinking of AI, as much as modelling complex turbulent flow in aero and hydrodynamics or weather forecasting
    Well, weather, any decimal points are BS anyway :-)
    However, AI and fuzzy logic and neural networks - it
   has just been standard practice to use floats to handle
   all values. I've got books going back into the mid 80s
   on all those and you JUST USED floats.
    BUT ... as said, even a 32-bit int can handle fairly
   large vals. Mult little vals by 100 or 1000 and you can
   throw away the need for decimal points - and the POWER
   required to do such calx. Accuracy should be more than
   adequate.
    In any case, I'm happy SOMEONE finally realized this.
    TOOK a really LONG time though ......
AIUI, GPU/Cuda only offered 32 bit floats, no doubles. So I think people always knew.

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13 Oct 24 +* Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints12Richard Kettlewell
13 Oct 24 i+* Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints8The Natural Philosopher
13 Oct 24 ii`* Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints7Pancho
14 Oct 24 ii `* Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints6The Natural Philosopher
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18 Oct 24   i      `- Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints1The Natural Philosopher
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16 Oct 24        +- Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints1The Natural Philosopher
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17 Oct 24         `* Re: Well DUH ! AI People Finally Realize They Can Ditch Most Floating-Point for Big Ints2Chris Ahlstrom
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