Re: The joy of actual numbers, was Democracy

On 31/10/2024 00:25, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 30 Oct 2024 12:43:03 +0100, D wrote:
 

Oh but they are. Today they are called mexicans, italians, greek,
arabians etc. and from a material and quality of life point of view,
they've never had it better.

 Tell that to a mestizo picking lettuce in central California.

In fact it probably is true. I remember looking at little huts and a few square yards hacked out of the jungle in the Quintana Roo, with a pig or two and some chickens, and some sweetcorn growing and thinking. "Ah, the relics of the Mayan civilisation"
Those people come to the USA because it IS a better life, just as in S Africa millions flooded into 'black townships' under a racist regime because life was, even so,  better than where they came from.
Like people fled in from Britain's countryside to live in apparent squalor and poverty in the industrial towns, because it was after all better than slaving in the fields.
The Rural Idyll supported at best 6 million populations. That grew rapidly once industrialisation happened...
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"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him."
    - Leo Tolstoy