Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?

Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> writes:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 14:25:10 +0000, Rich wrote:

186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:

On 11/23/24 4:25 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

That’s irrelevant.  Pipes originated on the earliest Unix machine,
which was a PDP-11 with only a 64kiB address space.  They work great
for pumping around gigabytes of data, but you don’t need
gigabyte-sized memory buffers to do that.

 
  It all has to be SOMEWHERE ... if not in RAM then
  on a mass storage device.

 
Nope, at least not with pipes.

>
Hold on a sec.... pipes are /buffered/ in RAM, so there's at least
a small bit of ram set aside for each open pipe.

 
The word ‘all’ isn’t just decoration.  The claim was ‘it all has to be
somewhere’, and Rich’s point (as I understand it) is that it does not
all have to be somewhere.
 
For example,
 
  head -c $((1024*1024*1024)) /dev/urandom | sha256sum
 
puts a gigabyte of data through a pipe, but at no point does anything
allocate anywhere close to a gigabyte of storage of any kind.