Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On 11/24/24 9:41 PM, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 24 Nov 2024 19:35:57 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

    I never learned it until M$ started sneaking it into their OS junk.
    "What's a .py ???". The good side of that is that it was right near
    the v2 -> v3 transition and I decided to learn the 'new and
    improved'.

 Good timing. Esri's ArcPy up until Esri 11 was 2.7 so I stayed with it for
non-Esri scripts. The transition from 10.8 to 11 was bloody, not only for
going to Python 3.8. Being the 500 lb. gorilla in the GIS field they could
say "Yeah, this is going to break a lot of stuff you've been doing for
years. Suck it up."  Like Windows 10, Esri 10.8 went on extended life
support.
 I don't think it was a giant conspiracy but several different applications
I dealt with went from 10.x to 11.x about the same time leading to some
confusion. "Which 11 are we talking about?"

   The v2->v3 transition wasn't THAT horrible. Indeed
   most smaller v2 apps only need the print()s fixed up.
   More complex apps, yea, some annoying/confusing
   changes in function params and such - but still not
   all THAT bad.
   They PROMISE that p4 will involve almost no re-writing,
   the fixes are internal performance changes instead.
   ANYway ... Python is kinda nice, easy to read/understand
   and can now do almost anything. You can sense a little 'C'
   and a little FORTRAN, in there. If you need SPEED though,
   go to a proper compiled lang. 'C' does bit-oriented stuff
   better, so it's maybe THE choice for exotic coms apps.
   Parent/child servers are 'traditionally' in 'C'.
   Pascal is sweeter, IMHO - loved it since the multi-pass
   compiler days (still have one of those in a DOS VM and
   it WORKS). Hey, some langs "just speak" to you .... I've
   made as many Free Pascal/Lazarus apps as 'C' apps.
   But I still can't envision Perl-lovers.
   Hmmm ... just wondering ... what would an 'AI' make
   of "The Joy Of Joy"  :-)