Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On 11/27/24 5:13 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 01:39:34 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

On 11/25/24 4:49 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
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There is a “new BASIC” that fits that description: it’s PHP.

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Ummmmmm ... CAN use it for general programming ... but it's not
super-pleasant  :-)

 It attracts the kind of people who might have used BASIC before.

   I never really saw it as so "BASIC-like" ...
   To me the look&feel is kinda like a mix of tiny 'C',
   Bash and a bit of Java.
   In any case, best suited for web pages. That is
   its natural environment. I've writ some web
   stuff with kinda a lot of PHP in them. The most
   fun spawned a TEMPORARY mirror of the site in
   a TEMPORARY subdir that'd expire after 15 minutes
   of non-use. That way there was no permanent link
   hacks could keep attacking. The mother site was
   kept entirely off the webroot.
   Anyway, WordPress and Joomla and most anything
   else for the web is REALLY stupid and useless
   without PHP.

Python is "better" - but not THAT much better.

 It’s a whole lot better. Nearly all of the language features are very
carefully thought out. The result is that the core remains compact, yet is
versatile, which is why you get so many library modules built on top of it
-- because the language makes such modules very powerful.

   IMHO, 'C' and Pascal are The Best. Python is 'fair', and
   has become a little more fair over time.
   Other opinions will vary.
   These days you'll get the Rust crusaders :-)