Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

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De : 186283 (at) *nospam* ud0s4.net (186282@ud0s4.net)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 08. Dec 2024, 08:05:12
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On 12/7/24 5:40 AM, D wrote:
  On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 
This is not so good. I hope IBM won't kill redhat in the end.
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 Alas I think they will. As said, you are now IBMs
 beta tester. This is valuable for working out a
 number of kinks - but eventually the kinks will
 be kinda dealt with. Then RH and its downstream
 parasites will Go Away.
 This is very sad. I know a guy who is an EMEA level manager at Redhat, so he
benefited from the acquisition with a nice promotion. According to him, what IBM
is currently doing to destroy it is to mess around with licensing, to make it
more draconian and more expensive. Ceph has moved to IBM, so that will probably
go downhill, since IBM will always push GPFS over ceph.
 At redhat, the only things that is focused on is Openshift, as the ultimate
lock-in tool, so the OS just lives to the side in its own world.
   IBM has "different motives" when it comes to Linux.
   They will use what they want to use and then trash
   the rest.
   We're in the middle of that.

What is sad is that SUSE is doing the excat same thing. Their strategy seems to
be to copy everything Redhat does, and do it worse. They now only focus on
rancher, and are leaving the OS to the side. They closed down their openstack
and their ceph.
   Yea, (real)SUSE isn't worth it anymore.
   Ever tried OpenIndiana - formerly Solaris ? It's
   not really Linux or Unix but "familiar". Really
   not so bad.
   And there's always Plan-9  :-)

What they sadly don't realize is that the OS is their jewel. I would focus on
that in the embedded space, they had a hueg lead in the SAP space, and see if I
could grow up. But no... rancher and containers it is, and there redhat is
blocking them well with openshift.
   The pointy-haired bosses are only interested
   in quick PROFITS and CONTROL. No sense of 'mission'
   beyond that.
   I greatly fear when Linus drops out of the picture.

 Switched to Deb - but now IT seems to have hired
 a bunch of Canonical rejects .....
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Deb has been on my list to try, in case opensuse finally dies. I also thought about trying Alpine linux but I do not know how much trouble musl will cause me. Finally, if those do not deliver, I thought about actually going back to some of my earliest experiments and try FreeBSD for day to day use. Since I'm not a cutting edfe developer, I only need some basics, which I think all are in the FreeBSD packages, so if they fixed their wifi problem (I tried it 1 year ago and had to run a small linux VM for a working wifi driver) it could definitely be a serious option. Oh, and that would mean it doesn't drain the battery as well. But let's see. I think I can stick with opensuse 15.6 for at least another 2-3 years, and then they might kill the project in favuor of some container based crap.
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 Deb WAS the Solid Foundation ... until now. It became
 just another 'Buntu IMHO. Tragic !
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 The BSDs are "usable" - really Not Bad. However remember
 they are Unix, not Linux, so a lot of little stuff is
 different. They also tend to be a few years behind when
 it comes to drivers. The real target is SERVERS, not
 desktops.
 True. BSDs are a bit behind, but since my main use case is office + light
scripting + some light servers stuff (backup, web server, etc.) BSDs should be
fine I think. We will see in about 1-2 years when the time comes to leave
opensuse 15.6 behind.
   The BSDs might be just perfect for your needs. They
   are NOT so perfect for other people's needs - esp
   the gigantic 'desktop' users segment who expect tons
   of eye candy, GUI everything and anything plugged-in
   to Just Work.
   I've got FreeBSD in a VM right now - to refine the
   'how to do it' trivia. DID get X and XCFE installed.
   Next step is to install on an N95 BMax mini-box and
   attach an external HD box. I'd like to use SAMBA but
   something weird CHANGED with that in the last year
   or two and I can't seem to bring up the shares -
   always permissions errors regardless. NFS works,
   but it's got less security and far fewer options.
   Hmmm ... is it possible to 'dd' a VM into a usable
   bootable image on a real machine ? I've seen various
   'answers'. MX has a utility for cloning the running
   install, it works well, but haven't seen that elsewhere.

 OpenSUSE/Tumbleweed ... DID get it to run on a Pi-4,
 albeit a bit clunky sometimes because it isn't a
 "light" distro. Pi-5s are WEIRD ... can't even get
 a Fedora for those even a year on. Apparently the
 boot-up chain of events is a huge kludge. HAVE
 found instructions - pages and pages and pages
 of them - WAY too old for that shit and half of
 it would probably disappear on the next update.
 I have a radxa zero for my kodi/tv use, and I tried to get opensuse to run on it
and it was not possible. The radxa zero, being some kind of chinese raspberry
copy had horrible documentation, so in the end, the only thing I managed to get
working was some kind of dev snapshot of debian in their git repository.
   Well, not all PI clones are equal. DID try an Orange PI
   and Banana PI. Close ... but not QUITE the same. It'd
   depend on your exact purpose. If you NEED all the I/O
   pins then stick to PIs, esp genuine PIs. If not then
   shop BMax/BeeLink mini-boxes. Did buy another Pi just
   a few weeks ago - but it's a Pi4, not Pi5. The pre-
   BookWORM distros will run on it.

I would loooose for raspberry to develop an updated version of the pi zero. That
is what the radxa is. I have 4 GB ram and 16 GB built in flash storage on the
tiniest board. It was wifi and bluetooth, and kodi and 1080p runs well on it.
   The P0 is an interesting variant. You could do a lot of
   useful stuff with the old Pi-1/2 boards and P0 seems to
   encapsulate that capability without much more BS.
   WiFi/BT/etc ... MIGHT take a bigger board - but the
   parts ARE getting smaller and better all the time.
   Expect a Pi0.1 eventually.
   When I retired I still had an original Pi - the one
   with fewer I/O pins - doing a simple job in the
   server room (inside an old drill-bit box). It'd been
   working since forever. DID finally update the system
   near the end, new SD card - and it still worked great.
   The new guys don't know Linux from their assholes so
   I don't know if it's still there ... they just pay
   M$ lots and lots of $$$ and if anything goes wrong
   they blame M$ or external vendors. Tragic.

If raspberry updated their zero to those specs (or beyond) I would drop the
radxa in a second since I expect that the git repository will become
unmaintained in a year or two.
 
 If you really want an alt, consider Arch and
 derivs. Endeavour is nice. Manjaro works well
 (but, like Tumbleweed, kinda updates the ENTIRE
 system at the slightest change).
 Thank you for the pointers. Have made a note of this.
   Just trying to predict the near future ... it's
   not ALL so rosy.

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