Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On Sat, 7 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

die prematurely.

 True. But a model does not imply that there is no material world. In fact, the success of our models is a strong proof of a material world.
 

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I never said there wasn't a material world, juts that is nothing like what you think of as 'the material world' which is a figment of the imagination

I have admited and do admit that my state of the material world is most
definitely _not_ the true state of the world. It seems we alternate between
misunderstanding, and deep, spiritual understanding.

That the models are the transform - the map - of some underlying externality

... quantum, arguments we've been through before...

I understand your need for security, but don't let it limit your thinking.

 

No. the need for security exists in almost everyone. People want simple truths. Certainties. The certainty of God, The certainty of a 'material world'. The certainty of 'social justice'

Well, from a Maslowian point of view you are right. Many people critique him,
but I actually think he came up with truths. Ok, maybe not _exactly_ a pyramid
and here and there, but the essence I think is pretty good.

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I think that is insulting. Stop ascribing motivations or putting words in my mouth. If you do not, I will reverse the process, and we will end up killfiling each other or angrily ignoring each other. I would not like for that to happen.

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