Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 10/12/2024 08:58, D wrote:

I would _love_ to do that kind of experiment, tring out some psylocybin on hard core atheists, or even better, not even telling them what the test is about, and see the reaction and what they experience.
 Then running the same tests on atheists who know the experiments is about finding god, to compare.

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My research suggest that everybody ends up in the same place, but some use the language of religion to describe it and some do not.
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It is difficult to describe a state of mind in which language and internal verbalisation has broken down.
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It is in an utterly prosaic and un 'gosh wow' way 'beyond our comprehension'. To look at something and not recognise it.

I vaguely remember experiments with the god helmet, where some atheists just felt a vague present, like someone watching you, while more creative people had strong visions.