Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?

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Sujet : Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?
De : invalid (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (Richard Kettlewell)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 18. Dec 2024, 19:32:15
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John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> writes:
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
Yes, our local nymshift troll seems to clearly not know what a pipe
is, nor care to learn either.
>
I *think* what he's meaning to say is this: while you can transfer any
arbitrary amount of data *through* a pipe, there is an upper limit to
how much you can have *in* a pipe at any one time; eventually, you hit
either *A.* an OS-imposed limit on buffer size, at which point things
start blocking as already discussed, or *B.* the upper bounds of
system memory, at which point the system will either start swapping
(in which case you lose any speed advantage) or blocking (as with
limited buffer size.)

That’s a very charitable interpretation, particularly given that the
reality of how pipes work has been described two or three times
recently.

That said, what probably shouldn't need saying here is that if you're
filling up all available space in a pipe such that you're regularly
hitting these limits, you're probably doing pipes wrong.

Pipes have a capacity of, typically, a few kilobytes and when that
capacity is reached, writers block until readers drain them.

All this stuff about filling RAM or swapping is just nonsense.

--
https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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18 Nov 24 * Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?80186282@ud0s4.net
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3D
20 Nov 24 i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2186282@ud0s4.net
20 Nov 24 i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1D
18 Nov 24 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Pancho
18 Nov 24 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell
18 Nov 24 +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?52Rich
18 Nov 24 i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?51Phillip Frabott
20 Nov 24 i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?50Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Nov 24 i  `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?49Phillip Frabott
21 Nov 24 i   `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?48Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Nov 24 i    `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?47Phillip Frabott
21 Nov 24 i     +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?20Richard Kettlewell
22 Nov 24 i     i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?19Phillip Frabott
22 Nov 24 i     i +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?17Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?16vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?9vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i `* Named pipes vs. Unix sockets (was: Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?)8vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i  `* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets7vallor
22 Nov 24 i     i i i   +- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i i   `* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets5Phillip Frabott
22 Nov 24 i     i i i    +* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Nov 24 i     i i i    i`* Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets2Phillip Frabott
23 Nov 24 i     i i i    i `- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24 i     i i i    `- Re: Named pipes vs. Unix sockets1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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23 Nov 24 i     i i  +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3vallor
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23 Nov 24 i     i i  i`- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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22 Nov 24 i     i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell
21 Nov 24 i     `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?26Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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23 Nov 24 i           +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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23 Nov 24 i           i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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23 Nov 24 i            `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Nov 24 i             `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?12186282@ud0s4.net
24 Nov 24 i              +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Nov 24 i              `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?10Rich
24 Nov 24 i               `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?9Lew Pitcher
24 Nov 24 i                +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
24 Nov 24 i                `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?7Richard Kettlewell
24 Nov 24 i                 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Carlos E.R.
24 Nov 24 i                 +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
25 Dec 24 i                 `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?4186282@ud0s4.net
27 Dec 24 i                  +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell
28 Dec 24 i                  +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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20 Nov 24 `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?22Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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3 Dec 24   +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24   i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2186282@ud0s4.net
4 Dec 24   i `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Dec 24   `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?17Pancho
14 Dec 24    `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?16root
14 Dec 24     `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?15The Natural Philosopher
17 Dec 24      `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?14Geoff Clare
18 Dec 24       `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Dec 24        `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?12186282@ud0s4.net
18 Dec 24         `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?11Rich
18 Dec 24          +* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Robert Riches
18 Dec 24          i`* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?4Rich
19 Dec 24          i `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3Robert Riches
19 Dec 24          i  `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?2Rich
19 Dec 24          i   `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1D
18 Dec 24          `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?5Richard Kettlewell
18 Dec 24           `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?4Rich
18 Dec 24            `* Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?3John Ames
18 Dec 24             +- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Rich
18 Dec 24             `- Re: Are We Back to the "Wars" Now ?1Richard Kettlewell

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