Re: The Joy of *small* business

On Wed, 18 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 12/18/24 3:15 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 18/12/2024 19:11, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:01:12 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
 

On 18/12/2024 07:09, rbowman wrote:

On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 00:05:27 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

     The first known human on the island - a cave fossil named 'Cheddar
     Man' - turned out to be a 'black' African who apparently sailed up
     the Spanish and finally English coast about 10,000 years ago just
     as the ice age was starting to thaw.

 Depending on the exact timing he may have hiked across Doggerland.

 Well its false anyway, and if coming from Africa Doggerland would not
have been a useful route

 Exactly why do you think he sailed from Africa? The DNA matches the
western European hunter gatherers who had be in Europe as long ago as
17,000 years BP.
 

 Then why call him a black African...
 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2161867-ancient-dark-skinned-briton-
cheddar-man-find-may-not-be-true/
 

New scientist is a political magazine. It has no real scientific content. Its har left antd this is probably part of some 'critical race theory' bullshit

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 At least partially true ... don't take their stuff
 at face value, there are clearly agendas mixed in.
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 Used to take the biggies - Science and Nature - but
 eventually lost the patience to read through them.
 Sigma Xi's "American Scientist" is more friendly.
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 And FORGET "Scientific American" - first it dumbed-down
 a bit and then went far left and I don't think it can be
 redeemed. Extinction followed by a name-ripoff resurrection
 is the only hope. Such a pity.
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 But ... in the CURRENT POLITICAL CLIMATE ... is it
 even possible to have a relatively 'objective'
 science source ? I see every color of glasses -
 except Clear.
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The rest of the article is pay walled but if you read other sources there
is waffling on the skin color although 'black' generates better headlines.
Even Wikipedia is more balanced.
 

Exactly
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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_hunter-gatherer#Physical_appearance
 When you're looking for specific alleles of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 in ancient
DNA there is room for interpretation.
 https://phys.org/news/2023-08-ancient-ape-trkiye-story-human.html
 Chris Stringer's Just So stories may become yesterday's news. Wolpoff and
Caspari challenged that theory about 30 years ago, partially because
Stringer's time line wasn't realistic.
 Perhaps they will revisit the M haplogroup which has long been an anomaly.
The Just So story says L3 left Africa and mutated to M subclades of which
are common in Asia, including the Indian subcontinent.  Except M1, which
is found in North Africa. Did some M people on their way to Japan get
homesick and go back to Africa?
 

Every body wandered around and banged anything that moved.

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 EXACTLY !  :-)
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 The more they trace the 'tree' the more obvious
 that becomes. The Victorians would be SHOCKED.

I'm so lucky to be related to the norse gods instead! No earthly connections here.