Re: The Joy of *small* business

On 12/22/24 4:53 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 22/12/2024 09:31, rbowman wrote:

On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:12:43 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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    Those poor people ... caught between an ever-growing mountain of
    facts/evidence and equally-persuasive *belief* (which requires no
    facts). They TRY to find ways to splice it all together. It doesn't
    work well ...

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A friend was a Young Earther despite being a proficient programmer. Given
the premise God can do anything it's no problem for him to whip up the
Grand Canyon with all its geological layers in his spare time. He was also
well rehearsed in the creationist arguments against evolution.
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 The problem is, that both the scientific narrative and the creationist one are complete, logical and unassailable.

   Yep, kinda hermetically-sealed bubbles.
   Somewhere, early on, you take a step in one of
   several directions and then that defines your
   path forever more.

One posits a supernatural 'Big Bang' from which time, space energy and the laws of nature miraculously sprang, and the other posits a big Creation from which  time, space energy and the laws of nature miraculously sprang, just already formed as a complete *fake*, like someone today constructing a '1000 year old' house. Complete with faked history.

   The 'big bang' - esp with 'inflation' added - IS a bit
   of a stretch ...
   I'll agree, because it suits me, that it's likely what
   happened - but really truly PROVING it and the underlying
   factors is gonna be difficult to the EXTREME.

The only difference is the latter big bang has a sentient intelligence with a  Plan in charge.
 Really we only reject it on the slender basis of Occam - it's simply

    ... weird .......
 > more complicated than necessary to explain this shit.
   Came across an little article on a sci/tech page the other
   day about 'negative time'. Basically, if you send a photon
   into some crystals another comes out BEFORE the original
   goes IN. This had been attributed to instrumentation issues,
   but now the instrumentation is much better and it DOES happen.
   The first-up cause is to look at photons as quantum-statistical
   entities rather than a 'thing'. However there's a slight smell
   to that.
   Ah ... found it :
   https://phys.org/news/2024-12-scientists-negative-quantum.html
   This seriously smears-out the whole 'causality' thing,
   future precedes past. I wonder how far before/until
   that effect might go ?
   It also points to 'the real picture' being kinda being
   SO complex and strange it's not really within the realm
   of human IQ anymore. We might put the "AI"s on it, but
   won't understand how they reach their answers.or REALLY
   what it means. As such it all becomes as 'magic' to us -
   full circle.
   We LIKE to think we can grasp it all but ... umm ... NOPE.
   However we CAN *use* the 'magic' the AIs find ... so it's
   not a total loss. Just wave yer wand and repeat " ...