Re: Remember "Bit-Slice" Chips ?

On 12/22/24 6:22 AM, D wrote:

  On Sun, 22 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
 

On 12/21/24 6:25 AM, D wrote:

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On Sat, 21 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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On 12/20/24 4:22 PM, D wrote:

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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:57:38 +0100, D wrote:
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But now we have LLM:s!  What I find interesting is how different people
view them. I find the free ones you can play with online to be
incredibly boring. I use them as a kind of search engine on steroids for
stuff that is not important (for entertainment purposes).

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Brave added one to the search engine but I turned it off. Might as well go
straight to reddit which seems to be heavily mined.
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That's the thing. LLM:s for me, are good at summarizing articles, so instead of being "ai" they are just a nice complement to searching, and as long as they work and don't hallucinate, they save me some clicks. That's about it.
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Oh, and writing government policy documents. When doing that, their hallucinations are actually an asset! ;)

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 Ha Ha Ha - SO true there :-)
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 Anyway, as I say elsewhere, LLMs are just PART of
 'intelligence'. OTHER parts need to be spliced in.
 Brains are just WEIRD ... 600+ million years of
 field-tested neural insanity.
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 However, somewhere in there - early - "ME-ism"
 emerged. There's some neat-o trick to that which
 we haven't yet grasped. We're not thinking quite
 right about 'self'. I think THAT is the basic
 paradigm and then you add more IQ and such ONTO it.
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Could you please expand on the me-ism part? I have certainly not detected any me-isms and that is why I find them so boring. Give me volition, initiative  and desperate attempts to stop me from deleting them, then we're on to something!

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 What, the "Me, Myself and I" thing ?
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 It's the realization, however dim, that I am an
 autonomous unit. I am not that rock. I am not
 that tree. I am not that OTHER DAMNED IGUANA
 that's wandered into MY territory. There's ME,
 and everything else.
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 In an odd sense it's anti-Buddhist.
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 SO FAR I don't really see that in any of the
 AI models. They're well-perfected REACTION
 but there's still nobody home.
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 We're missing something.
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 At this time, that MAY be a good thing.
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 Ahh ok, got it! Yes, not a lot of "me" going on there for sure.

   There's SOME sort of 'mirror' thing involved here - act,
   observe, acted upon, observe, feel. Soon 'ME' evolves as
   a sort of emergent property or you die.
   When every Nvidia chip in the world suddenly goes
   red-line then we'll know some "Me" has come into
   being - inspection, introspection, layers and
   layers, deeper and deeper  :-)
   As said, LLMs are now excellent examples of REACTION,
   but they're still missing The Thing even lizards,
   chickens and some bugs seem to possess - there's
   no "I Am" in there.
   Some ARE now giving Chat and friends limited "bodies"
   and senses. Dunno if the models support "Me" even
   with that - but it seems a critical thing.
   Oh, is 'animal' "ME" the ONLY kind of "ME" ? This
   seems a cool question.