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On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 12:24:53 +0100, D wrote:This is the truth! Difficult to win that argument without resorting to violence or de-programming. ;)
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:>
>On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 02:12:43 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:>
>Those poor people ... caught between an ever-growing mountain of>
facts/evidence and equally-persuasive *belief* (which requires no
facts). They TRY to find ways to splice it all together. It doesn't
work well ...
A friend was a Young Earther despite being a proficient programmer.
Given the premise God can do anything it's no problem for him to whip
up the Grand Canyon with all its geological layers in his spare time.
He was also well rehearsed in the creationist arguments against
evolution.
Did you ever get anywhere with him in arguments, or was every argument
closed down by the "God"-argument?
There is no winning that argument so I let it slide. I would push his
buttons by taking the Catholic side in arguments about other points. HeYes, I thought about that. It was strange to see Trumps followers happily dancing and singing along. Either they didn't know, didn't care or were crypto-homos. Pick up to three. ;)
was entirely dependent of his interpretation of the bible. I would point
out the Catholics determined the canon. There have been a few Protestant
tweaks. Luther left out Thomas on his first go-around since the parts
about faith without works being empty didn't fit with sola fides.
Maccabees winds up in 'apocrypha' since it mentions prayers for the dead
as an intercession. Then there is the decalogue parsing to come down heavy
on those statues.
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I doubt many Catholics believe in the Young Earth but that's one of the
areas that is dealers choice as far as the catechism goes, along with
evolution.
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He died last year and I sort of miss the friendly discussions. As a part
of hearing what you want to hear a group from his church sand Cohen's
'Hallelujah' at the service. There certainly is biblical imagery but there
is also the verse
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"Maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot at someone who outdrew ya
And it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah"
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Then there are the politicians who play Springsteen's 'Born in the USA' at
there rallies. Or Trump's fondness for 'YMCA'. That song and the Village
People were as queer as it gets but I don't think he gets the context.
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