Re: Linux upgrade.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

On 12/25/24 5:08 PM, D wrote:

  On Wed, 26 Dec 2024, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
 

D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

As part of my christmas tradition, I always upgrade my linux when the
holiday starts. The reason is that if something goes wrong, I have a long
time to fix it, without anything work related getting in the way.

 Where practical I prefer to clone the drive and upgrade the clone,
then work on the issues while using the old OS on the original

 Way to advanced for my humble infrastructure. ;) But online and in the hosting environment, snapshots are very convenient when doing any big changes. Actually, I do have btrfs on my opensuse, so when doing any upgrades, it does take a snapshot, so I do have the option of rolling back to the last good snapshot. Come to think of it, I've done it once with great success! =)
 

drive and finally clone the upgrade drive over when everything's
working right (after doing a backup of the old one just in case I
was wrong). So there's no deadline as such, just the annoyance of
needing to note when new software is installed during use so the
same can be done on the upgrade drive.
 

Every year, I am equally surprised when things just work. I move my dot
files, and all application are there, with the settings I'm used to.

 I often have trouble with things getting unintentionally
uninstalled.

 Strangely enough, everything survived and was upgraded after the OS upgrade. Opensuse is a true ninja! I do not understand why not more people use it in production. I suspect that it is one distro that will disappear within the next 10 years or so, as SUSE gets more and more mismanaged.

>
 The death of OpenSUSE is that it's part of the IBM/RHEL
 vortex now, just like CentOS. Using it, you're basically
 an unpaid beta tester for IBM. Eventually they won't need
 that so much - and that entire distro family will just
 go away.

What is this IBM/RHEL vortex of SUSE? I've missed that completely. Is anyone buying SUSE? SUSE has a hidden gem and that is their deal with SAP, where they are the default OS in many SAP environments.

 Hmm ... time for a "MOREOpenSUSE" fork ... it really is a
 very good, useful, helpful distro. Used it for a LONG
 time for both workstations and servers.
>
 Debian WAS good - but now it's gone way too 'Canonical'
 for no good reasons whatsoever except to cause problems.
 A few forks like Devuan may still be OK for now.

Sigh... debian was on my list, as well as devuan.

 Arch derivs and a few of the BSDs may be your future.
 Just downloaded the latest 'Dragonfly' yesterday. I'll
 make a VM out of it for experimental purposes. The
 biggest BSD prob these days is that the driver database
 tends to run years behind ... making them better for
 servers with boring standard hardware.

I think you are right. The more I look the more BSD seems like a good choice. It seems Linux is becoming too cloudified and too governed by big corporations. I tried to work with the linux foundation once, and it was just revolting. I am working with a non-profit now under the linux foundation, and it is so sloooooooooooow. It is a miracle they manage to get anything done at all. =/