On 12/26/24 1:53 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 12:44:57 +0100, D wrote:
Wow! Talk about a visionary! He took the logical step from everyone
owning a car, to everyone owning a plane! I would like to own a flying
car. Even a helicopter I would be content with! Imagine... then I could
build a _real_ fortress of solitude, far, far away from any public
roads!
Now there's a scary thought. When I was learning to fly a fixed wing the
person teaching me, an ag pilot with several thousand hours in the air,
was trying to tech himself to fly a helicopter. He was as frustrated as I
was. The motivation was to allow precise insecticide application rather
than the fly low and open the valves technique.
About 25 years ago, a smart guy I knew decided he wanted
to fly helicopters. He described it as somewhat like trying
to balance on a big rubber ball. About the third or fourth
lesson he CRASHED the thing while trying to hover just ten
feet off the ground. All survived OK, but that was the
END of the lessons :-)
It was interesting but I realized there were practical problems. With only
VFR you were completely dependent on the weather. With IFR you had a
little more flexibility but you weren't going to keep schedules. The other
problem is after you fly to Oshkosh you find yourself at a small airfield
10 miles from town.
Today, it IS possible to build a 'stable' helicopter or,
even easier, a stable multi-motor drone. Saw a larger
drone - intended for ag work - that was about 4x6 feet
in size - auto-hover a few feet above the ground ON A
WINDY DAY - and barely vary position or altitude by
an inch or two. You could walk up and kinda shove the
thing and it'd spring right back to where it was
supposed to be.
As such, replacing full mechanical with fly-by-wire,
you could get such machines to do what they figure
you WANT them to do rather than respond to a millimeter
of random joystick input. Military - probably still
want 'em to be "touchy" - but for 'consumer' needs ...
I think the F-16 was the first performance aircraft
where humans didn't ACTUALLY fly them - it was all
"smart" fly-by-wire. Humans could not cope with the
changing aerodynamics at all possible speeds and
attitudes and such, so the computer did the real
work, 'translating' the pilots inputs. It worked.
TODAY it'd be relatively CHEAP and maybe even better.
The light aircraft industry has had its dreams, particularly after WWII
with returning servicemen but they never worked out. The FAA came up with
a sport pilot license which only required a drivers license and not a
medical certificate and shorter training. It had limitations but the major
problem was a 1320 maximum takeoff weight. Most existing planes to make
that limit are Piper Cubs, Taylorcraft, Ercoupes, and other antiques,
often taildraggers for added excitement. Cessna 150s, Piper Tomahawks, and
other common training planes are too heavy. There are some new planes that
meet the requirements. Cessna tried with the 162, a cut down 152, but at
$150,000 it didn't sell.
I've flown Cubs ... right down to hand-cranking
the propeller. They are slow, but there's a nice
'floaty' aspect to them, and quite stable, once
in the air. Fat wing intended for low speeds. The
one I few a few times only had like 30 horsepower,
the originals were like 20hp.
The C150/152 is great 'general purpose' craft. Again
very stable but feels more 'airplane' than the Cub
and is notably faster. Flaps and engine power down
you COULD fly them at a bit under 40knots though
it was wobbly. Extra plus, they're intended for
students - which means robust construction. As such
I never saw the 'weight' as a negative - more as
an insurance policy.
Never liked newer Pipers - can't see a damned thing
with that wing under you. Also knew a guy who worked
on one of their lines ... and NOPE, did NOT want a
plane he helped bang together :-)
A number of corps are fronting 'air-taxi' now using
what are essentially large drones. One or two don't
even have a pilot, all automated. Would NOT wanna
get on one will less than six thrusters though ...
that way one can die and the rest can still compensate.
As for George Jetsons' flying around in 'cars' ...
I can foresee disasters aplenty even WITH nominal
automatic route control. Humans don't even
navigate 2-D very well ......
Oh well, glory days ... I think the 2nd OPEC embargo
was the end - fuel prices went through the roof and
you couldn't always get the CORRECT fuel (a stuck
valve in a small plane engine is NOT encouraging).
Just couldn't afford to keep flying. BUT, still
KNOW how, just in case .....