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On 28/12/2024 11:08, D wrote:How come you are so wise on the ways of the occult? Has it always been an interest of yours?On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:>
On 27/12/2024 23:12, D wrote:I'm not convinced that Gardnerian wicca represents an unbroken tradition. But... who knows? ;) I've heard that this can give rise to bitter fights among wiccans.On Fri, 27 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:I am not going to argue: merely to say that modern Wicca started with Gardner who claimed to have been initiated by IIRC a Scottish witch in the practices of the 'old religion' .
On 23/12/2024 21:14, D wrote:I do not believe in any unbroken tradition except among indians, esquimaux or some siberian indians.I have a vague memory of reading somewhere that remains of paganism were alive until the 1700s, but cannot find anything through a quick google. My friendly neighbourhood AI insist on official death in the 12:th century.This is a subject of heated debate as modern Wiccan/Pagans like to feel they have an unbroken tradition.
But of course people probably learned to keep their mouths shit and rub themselves with witches ointment in private...
I do believe that it is not impossible that remains existed up until the 17th or perhaps even 18th century, although those remains probably were _very_ different from the original.
And started the modern following...
Oh yes. And the Cermoinial Magickians. And and and...
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More in fighting in Wicca than the average private school girls toilets...
Or the average religious sect. The exclusive Plymouth brethren simply will not talk to the ordinary Plymouth brethren etc. etc.
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