Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 22:23:26 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

   Cardboard ... may not REALLY be a market, just greenie pols trying to
   score points. However it might be good for lawn mulch or something
   similar. Hmmm ... new house, put a couple inches of ground cardboard
   down an then cover it with a few inches of good dirt. Oughtta hold
   lots of moisture. Structural uses ... the moment you crease the stuff
   it's lost mechanical strength, can't even soak it in glue/resin and
   make shelving. Just burn it at a power plant .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCPeElrhbIQ

https://missoulacountyvoice.com/smurfit-stone-mill-site-cleanup

The second link is the local pulp mill which is now a SuperFund site.
There was a plan to do something with the area but the settling ponds
problem put it on hold. Fish & Game advises people to not eat the fish
downstream.

Back in the '90s I hauled in cardboard like shown in the video from as far
away as Calgary. I also hauled chips a couple of times. That scrap from
the sawmill planers. You have to level the load and tarp it which meant
wading through the chips like a gerbil. At least they were clean and
smelled good.  I also hauled the big rolls out, often to another Stone
plant in Tracy CA. 

I don't know what proportion of scrap cardboard, chips, and trees that
weren't good enough for the sawmills they used but there is a real market
for cardboard.

   Styrofoam is a huge bugaboo. High volume with low mass. Can't really
   melt it properly. CAN dissolve it in some hydrocarbons and get a kind
   of degraded styrene goop, but I'm not sure what that's good for.

You can melt polystyrene easily but the the trash is contaminated. In the
early '80s I worked for SweetHeart's injection molding operation in
Somerville MA. They made consumer foam dinnerware and also McDonald's foam
clamshells. The nice thing about thermoplastics versus thermosets is you
can reuse the scrap.  McDonald's was very picky and specified a particular
shade of beige. Getting the right color assumed that there would be a
certain amount of scrap that would be ground and recycled. If everything
was running perfectly there wouldn't be enough scrap and the clamshells
made with virgin crystal styrene weren't the right shade.

I think they use pentane for the blowing agent now but back then it was
Freon-12, literally in railcar quantities. Damn the ozone layer, full
speed ahead. The job had one advantage. Another part of the factory made
both sugar and cake ice cream cones. When I was bored, which was most of
the time, I would wander over and grab some sugar cones hot off the line.