Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : tnp (at) *nospam* invalid.invalid (The Natural Philosopher)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 09. Jan 2025, 11:11:14
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On 09/01/2025 00:16, rbowman wrote:
but the cost of
generation is only zero if you defer maintenance to the point where it
isn't worthwhile.
That wasn't exactly my point.
My point is that once the capital costs of wind solar and nuclear  are sunk, and the maintenance costs, the *opportunity* cost of generating electricity with them is essentially zero.
Neither require more maintenance to *not* generate than to generate.
Neither cost more in fuel terms to generate than to not generate (the cost of uranium fuel rods is trivial - less than $0.02c/kWh. And that means that if the market price of elecxtri8city falls below the level at which burning coal or gas is profitable, its still worth supplying nuclear - or indeed renewable - power.
So, they are competing in the *same* space.
Now consider if you have enough nuclear power to power the USA on a dark windless winters night, which you need in case there is no wind or solar.
You already have the technology then to power the whole country without 'renewables' What is then the  point of having 'renewables' at *all*?
The short answer is that that there is no point, and in fact they simply increase the variability of what the nuclear power plants have to generate.
They are a cost with no benefit whatsoever..
Once you have nuclear.
To put it simply, once you have enough nuclear power there is no justification for subsidised renewable energy whatsoever.
It would in fact be cheaper to simply state purchase all the windfarms and close them down.
--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.
"Saki"

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26 Dec 24 `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11120Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC134John Ames
26 Dec 24  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC131Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC130John Ames
26 Dec 24  ii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC128Farley Flud
26 Dec 24  ii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
27 Dec 24  ii i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
27 Dec 24  ii ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Farley Flud
27 Dec 24  ii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC124TJ
27 Dec 24  ii i `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123The Natural Philosopher
28 Dec 24  ii i  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC121-hh
28 Dec 24  ii i  i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Physfitfreak
29 Dec 24  ii i  i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC118-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  ii+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC116Farley Flud
29 Dec 24  ii i  iii+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11-hh
29 Dec 24  ii i  iii`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC114TJ
30 Dec 24  ii i  iii +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC111rbowman
30 Dec 24  ii i  iii i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
30 Dec 24  ii i  iii i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC19Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC14Carlos E.R.
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31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Carlos E.R.
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC13The Natural Philosopher
31 Dec 24  ii i  iii i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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29 Dec 24  ii i  ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11The Natural Philosopher
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27 Dec 24  ii `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
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27 Dec 24  i `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11John Ames
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31 Dec 24  i ii i  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11D
29 Dec 24  i ii `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12The Natural Philosopher
29 Dec 24  i ii  `- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Dec 24  i i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lem Novantotto
29 Dec 24  i i`* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)5Lars Poulsen
29 Dec 24  i i +- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 (and digiKam and showFoto)1Carlos E.R.
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31 Dec 24  i i  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1841D
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1 Jan 25  i i   i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Chris Ahlstrom
1 Jan 25  i i   `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1838D
1 Jan 25  i i    +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC128rbowman
1 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12D
2 Jan 25  i i    ii`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11rbowman
2 Jan 25  i i    i+- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jan 25  i i    i+* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC123The Natural Philosopher
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3 Jan 25  i i    ii  +* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC12Carlos E.R.
4 Jan 25  i i    ii  i`- Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jan 25  i i    ii  `* Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC117D
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