Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1

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Sujet : Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1
De : TJ (at) *nospam* noneofyour.business (TJ)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 11. Jan 2025, 15:22:04
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On 2025-01-04 04:06, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
On 1/2/25 11:03 PM, Robert Riches wrote:
On 2025-01-02, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
On 1/1/25 1:20 PM, Joel wrote:
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jan 2025 11:44:29 -0500, -hh wrote:
>
[quote]
Unfortunately, the only way that this point actually becomes
"reasonable" is by finally admitting that many/most Linux fanboys are
chronic consummate cheapskates.
[/quote]
>
You omit that many/most commercial software packages are
EXTORTIONATE in that they capture users via proprietary
formats and subscription accounts.  The only difference
between them and the gangsters of old are the machine
guns.
>
I can pay $100 for a 1/2" power drill and I can expect it
to last 25-50 years or more.  (I inherited a power drill
from my grandfather that is almost 70 years old.  The
only problem is a loose connection in the power cable
that can be easily fixed.)
>
That same $100 won't even buy a 1 month subscription
for a desktop software package.
>
The situation is borderline criminality.
>
Both software and information want to be free (as in
"freedom" and not "beer").  We are seeing this happen.
Commercial software on the desktop is an endangered species.
>
I can understand the airline industry paying big bucks
for flight reservation software, or the nuclear power industry
paying big bucks for control software, but a desktop spreadsheet
or word processor is trivial and should cost nothing.
>
Everything done on the desktop has been standardized decades
ago.  There is no need for commercial software in this arena.
>
>
Clearly you're just ranting nonsense,
>
Which is par for the course for Feeb.
>
For example, good luck finding a 1/2" power drill for sale new today for
just $100 which will last for even 10 years of use, let alone his
"25-50" claim:  the days of bulletproof all metal body Craftsman or
Black & Decker power tools are long since gone.
>
Out of stock but not too much higher in price:
>
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-5-5-Amp-Corded-1-2-in-Variable- Speed-Hole-Shooter-Magnum-Drill-Driver-0234-6/100180020
>
I invested in one of those (or as close to that model as I can
see from the page) in 1991 or 1992.  A spare set of brushes has
yet to be needed.  It's strong enough to cause substantial wrist
discomfort if held less tightly enough than some use cases
deserve.  The side handle is needed in some cases.
>
Oh, I did have to replace the power cord once, but it was
relatively inexpensive.  It uses an interesting 3-conductor
twist-lock connector.
    Mostly, I'll rec the old metal-shell tools ...
   Craftsman, Skil, that genre. Super tough,
   what Tradesmen want and need. DO rec a
   re-cording to add a polarized plug and
   actual ground wire.
    Some of the plastic tools are OK, and the
   batteries make them useful in some ways.
   But for bouncing around on a construction
   site and such year after decade - 1960s
   metal-shell still kicks ass.
    STILL have and use my 60s metal-shell tools
   quite a lot. Drills, circular saws and such.
   Never disappoint. Shit was made hard-core
   back then.
I'm a farmer, third generation of the family to own and operate this farm. We still have my grandfather's Craftsman 1/2" drill. I did have to replace the power cord once, and the chuck key, but it still works fine. Gotta be close to 90 years old by now - I'm 75 and it's definitely much older than me.
But I don't use it much. Too big, heavy, and awkward for most tasks. Too powerful, as well - that sucker will break your arm if it gets stuck, too.
Most of the time, I have a 1/2" Harbor Freight hammer drill that I use when I need one with a chuck that big. It cost considerably less than $100, but then it's around 10-15 years old, so that was well before covid-induced inflation and the Trump/Biden Chinese tariffs. It's lasted this long because I keep it inside when not being used, and when I do use it I'm careful not to abuse it. Something my grandfather and father taught me.
TJ

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