Sujet : Re: smart plugs???
De : rich (at) *nospam* example.invalid (Rich)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc alt.os.linux.mintDate : 16. Jan 2025, 21:55:46
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In comp.os.linux.misc Phillip <
nntp@fulltermprivacy.com> wrote:
On 1/16/25 3:07 PM, Rich wrote:
In comp.os.linux.misc D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
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On 16/01/2025 09:33, Mike Scott wrote:
On 15/01/2025 20:31, Pancho wrote:
I think you have to be careful that they are not controlled by a
cloud service. If you have a cloud service you need a working wan
connection and you are exposed to the cloud service provider
disappearing.
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(Thanks to all for replying)
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This is the rub. tp-link clearly /want/ the consumer to use their
"cloud" service - which is usually just a fancy codeword for 'we
want your data'. There's no actual /need/ that I can see in this
case.
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Actually there is.
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It is the simple way to solve 'remote access' to your 'behind NAS'
network connected gadgets
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Now *we* can organise that because we are geeks, but te average
coinsumer? Doan mak me larf!
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I use tor to give me a globally unique name where I can access my
stuff behind NAT as a Tor hidden service.
99.1% of the total users would be incapable of achieving what you are
doing with Tor, even if given infinite time to set it all up.
I don't disagree that most users are not likely to be able to set up
complex things, but realistically, companies should always make it
possible to bypass their cloud service.
Full agreement. Sadly the commercial entities don't seem to provide
that ability except in rare cases.
Offer users the option, if they want it. But never force it or make it
mandatory. Philip's Hue does not require an account at all to use their
smart hub and lights/devices. In fact, their app can operate without any
internet connection at all. (You can disconnect your internet cable from
your router and turn off data on your phone and set the entire thing up
locally with the app, without any internet or online account creation.)
Which is how all the other IoT stuff should be too. Sadly, too many
companies don't even think to offer the "non-cloud" option.
smart plugs???
Re: smart plugs???