Re: New Pi 5 (Diversity - good or bad ?)

On Fri, 17 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:

Hmm, I think going full circle is then the way to go. Dig up a concept that has been forgotten for a 100 years or so, and perhaps it will be nice and fresh! ;)

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 Not a bad idea - although even using that would ultimately
 be 'derivative'.

Sadly yes.

 There was some good pop music 100+ ago - including early
 jazz/blues adaptations like 'ragtime'. COULD be kinda
 punched-up.

The wife loves jazz. Speaking of "new" I gave her an LP with Jan Johansson
called Jazz på svenska. It's a jazzification of old swedish folk melodies. Quite
relaxing, calm and melancholic. Kind of mirrors the swedish temperament I would
say.

 Humans are 'creative' - but not infinitely creative.
 Once in a while we'll hit on something 'new' - but,
 due to exposure/recordings that's getting more rare.
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 I recall Paul Simon going to Africa in order to find
 some 'new' sounds. Some of it worked, some didn't.
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Two books on that theme are Flatland which is about a 2d world and adding a few dimensions instead, there was a book by Greg Egan I think, which was about uploaded virtual entities. Cannot remember the name at the moment. I like that concept! I'm currently watching season 2 of pantheon, and it's going downhill. In the virtual world they are using way too many physical shortcuts to illustrate fights etc. It can of course be argued that the brains of the virtual entities have not yet adapter, but I think that's a lazy excuse. It would be interesting to think about if it would be possible to represent virtual uploaded entities in a way that might make them seem more native to their world, instead of just reusing our physical world for easy comprehension.

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 "FlatLand" is one of my faves. A much later writer did
 "SphereLand" - delving into four dimensions.

It was on my christmas reading list, but I forgot it in sweden when I migrated
back to eastern europe. Very annoying! It is not a long read. Well, in april
I'll be able to read it.

 What does a passing hypersphere look like ... like a
 dot, then a bigger and bigger sphere - then a smaller
 and smaller sphere - disappearing as a dot  :-)
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 You'll have to look it up ... there was an author,
 late 19th or early 20th, who made a book mostly
 full of figures/drawings he claimed - after close
 study - would help people wrap their brains around
 4th dimensional shapes.

My philosophy professors father claimed to be able to visualize 4d. My
philosophy professor thought it was one of his fathers jokes.

Easy! Meta-multiverse,

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 I call that "hyper-verse" or "poly-verse". We can more
 easily imagine many, maybe millions, of other universes
 spawned at the same time as ours, separate only by 4-D
 barriers. But what if there are entire TREES of those,
 no tree even remotely connected/nearby OUR tree ???

I've had similar ideas. Another fun idea is to imagine that there's no time, and
that everything, all history, always was there. Time is just a way for our minds
to deal with it in a rational way.

 3.x-D universes smell of some kind of leak/defect/bubble
 in the 10+ dimensional matrix. Kinda like a pot of
 water on a stove, the 10-D starts making lower-D
 "bubbles". Probably won't last forever, but forever
 IS a kinda long time.
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 Where'd the 10+ D come from ? Dunno. Don't really
 care. 'Causality' may mean nothing there. Best
 to just say it IS there and if it wasn't then we
 wouldn't be asking stupid questions.
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 Turtles all the way down .......

Someone should really interview those turtles some day. They seem to be involved
in a lot of stuff!

that's where the fun will be! Multiverse is for nerds! ;) Teilhardt de Jardin (or however it is spelled) tried a nice merge of spirituality and sci fi, and I just finished reading Radio free albemuth which had a nice sci fi take on christianity. Was interesting to read up on the story that parts of it are actually auto biographical from the point of view of Philip K. Dick.

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 Not into 'spiritual' stuff since I was like 9. Had
 one of those 'epiphany' things where all the whirring
 bits momentarily fall in line and you can see through
 to the (relatively boring/unromantic) truth.

Ah! I am very interested in the truth! What is the truth? What did you realize?