Re: Note - ISP Screwed Up - Can WRITE But Not SEE

On 23/01/2025 21:05, D wrote:

  On Thu, 23 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
 

On 23/01/2025 15:44, D wrote:

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On Wed, 22 Jan 2025, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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On 1/22/25 3:00 PM, Marco Moock wrote:

On 22.01.2025 00:19 Uhr 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
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Well, I can see - by posting with my normal ISP and
then reading from NeoDome (but can't POST from Neo).

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Maybe they restrict posting to avoid abuse.
Ask the admin of it.

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 Yep, they don't allow posting anymore - too
 many spammers. None of the other freebies
 seem to work at all any more or want you
 to "register". Some ISPs block port 119.
 This is not good.
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 My provider finally did fix it. Alas they
 may only have one old guy who knows how
 the NNTP server works. Don't think they
 even offer it to newbies anymore.
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 By modern standards, usenet is kinda small
 data-wise - and mostly just text. Would not
 take a super-box. Maybe some people are
 worried about liability - lots of weird
 stuff here ? Perhaps someone in a kinda
 off-the-map country can start a new free
 service. (hmmm ... Belize maybe?)

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I think it should be entirely feasible, and fairly cheap, to start your own usenet provider on a few hetzner VM:s. The only thing you'd need is a few peers, inn (or equivalent) and off you go.
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I've toyed with the idea myself from time to time, but so far haven't had the time to do something about it since other projects have priority.

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Yep.
I have set up a few INN servers. The problem back in the day was the binary newsgroups - people uploading pirate images of massive size..

 Isn't it very easy to just not offer the binary crap? There are way better methods today to get your hands on binaries than trawling through newsgroups downloading and integrating small compressed files.
 

Most servers have dropped the binaries, but that doesn't stop someone ouplading a load of crap to a text NG

It does take a bit of looking after. If you let everyone access it before you know it there is a huge amount of illegal shit being transferred on legitimate newsgroups, ratware is smashing against every door it can find and people are trying to DOS it just because someone called them out for being a doofus.

 It is very interesting! How long before someone would try and destroy your publicly available free news server? ;)
 

These days a month or two.
I play and online MPORPG - apperenly someone who got thrown off it for breaking the rules flooded it with gigabits per second to trash it.
I mean its only a game FFS!

On the other hand, one could always hope that the nr of people who even know what it is is so small that it could live happily unmoderated!
 

There is ratware out there that probes all well known ports on any IP address there is and publishes what they find.
My two online servers are bombarded with ssh requests to log as root or any other name.
The SMTP port is also  subject to random attempts to authenticate as is the POP3 port.
In ten + years they never have cracked it.

On the other hand, if spam increases too much or the complaints keep piling up, maybe the peers will drop you?
 

I doubt it. 70% of usenet is spam or eejits anyway.

But technically its not hard to do for a small community of users

 A hobby project for you? =)

Got too many already. I'll let eternal September take the strain :-)
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When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
  Frédéric Bastiat