Re: More systemdCrap

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Sujet : Re: More systemdCrap
De : Pancho.Jones (at) *nospam* protonmail.com (Pancho)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 11. Mar 2025, 17:12:43
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On 3/11/25 15:59, John Ames wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:50:25 +0000
Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> wrote:
 
Carlos has already suggested that there might be a method to
cryptographically sign the logs, making alterations very difficult,
even to a privileged user.
 Perhaps there is - but, as has already been pointed out, if journalctl
can delete records by date, it is certainly *possible* to delete
records by source. Any encryption that does not prevent the former
cannot prevent the latter.
 
Yes cryptography doesn't stop you deleting records, it does allow people to see when records have been deleted. When there is data missing, data they would expect to see.
Throwing a hand grenade in the server would "delete" records, but it would leave traces of evidence that something suspicious had occurred. Evidence that the server should no longer be relied upon.

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10 Mar 25 * More systemdCrap84The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 +* Re: More systemdCrap69Dan Espen
10 Mar 25 i`* Re: More systemdCrap68The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 i +* Re: More systemdCrap52Carlos E.R.
10 Mar 25 i i`* Re: More systemdCrap51The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 i i `* Re: More systemdCrap50Carlos E.R.
10 Mar 25 i i  +* Re: More systemdCrap41John Ames
11 Mar 25 i i  i`* Re: More systemdCrap40The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i +* Re: More systemdCrap20Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i i  i i+* Re: More systemdCrap10The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i ii+* Re: More systemdCrap6Carlos E.R.
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11 Mar 25 i i  i iii +* Re: More systemdCrap3John Ames
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11 Mar 25 i   ii`* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
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11 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: More systemdCrap4The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i   i +* Re: More systemdCrap2Carlos E.R.
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11 Mar 25 i   i `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i   `* Re: More systemdCrap2Dan Espen
11 Mar 25 i    `- Re: More systemdCrap1The Natural Philosopher
13 Mar 25 `* Re: More systemdCrap14Richard Kettlewell
13 Mar 25  `* Re: More systemdCrap13Carlos E.R.
13 Mar 25   `* Re: More systemdCrap12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Mar 25    `* Re: More systemdCrap11Carlos E.R.
14 Mar 25     `* Re: More systemdCrap10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Mar 25      +- Re: More systemdCrap1vallor
16 Mar 25      `* Re: More systemdCrap8Carlos E.R.
17 Mar 25       `* Re: More systemdCrap7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 25        `* Re: More systemdCrap6Carlos E.R.
18 Mar 25         `* Re: More systemdCrap5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 25          `* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
18 Mar 25           +* Re: More systemdCrap2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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