Re: More systemdCrap

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Sujet : Re: More systemdCrap
De : nospam (at) *nospam* example.net (D)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 11. Mar 2025, 22:37:42
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2025, Pancho wrote:

On 3/11/25 14:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 11/03/2025 12:33, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 03:58:44 -0400, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
 
On 10/03/2025 22:28, John Ames wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 23:14:19 +0100
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
 
Nothing is broken, it has been intentionally designed this way
 Okay, sure - but that design is stupid.
 
Exactly.
 Journalctl should be able to take the One True Logfile and scan it,
rewriting items to be retained and discarding items to be deleted .
 In other words make it as easy as possible for an inttruder to cover any trace of their
activities.
 Great log that would be for determining what an intruder did.
 
Dont you think any intruder would not already have written a journalctl to do exactly that?
Sheesh
 
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Carlos has already suggested that there might be a method to cryptographically sign the logs, making alterations very difficult, even to a privileged user.
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The basic pattern for immutable audit logs is mature due to the requirements of financial systems. Whether systemd have implemented a reliable system or not, I don't know, but they could.
It is very simple. You write it to WORM storage, or burn it to a disc. That's it. It's not really rocket science.
In military intelligence circles, they work with data diods as well to limit traffic.

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Regards, Dave Hodgins
 
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Mar 25 * More systemdCrap84The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 +* Re: More systemdCrap69Dan Espen
10 Mar 25 i`* Re: More systemdCrap68The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 i +* Re: More systemdCrap52Carlos E.R.
10 Mar 25 i i`* Re: More systemdCrap51The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 i i `* Re: More systemdCrap50Carlos E.R.
10 Mar 25 i i  +* Re: More systemdCrap41John Ames
11 Mar 25 i i  i`* Re: More systemdCrap40The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i +* Re: More systemdCrap20Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i i  i i+* Re: More systemdCrap10The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i ii+* Re: More systemdCrap6Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i i  i iii`* Re: More systemdCrap5The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i iii +* Re: More systemdCrap3John Ames
11 Mar 25 i i  i iii i+- Re: More systemdCrap1D
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12 Mar 25 i i  i ii`* Re: More systemdCrap3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Mar 25 i i  i ii `* Re: More systemdCrap2John Ames
12 Mar 25 i i  i ii  `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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12 Mar 25 i i  i i `* Re: More systemdCrap7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Mar 25 i i  i i  `* Re: More systemdCrap6Carlos E.R.
12 Mar 25 i i  i i   `* Re: More systemdCrap5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Mar 25 i i  i i    `* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
13 Mar 25 i i  i i     `* Re: More systemdCrap3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
13 Mar 25 i i  i i      `* Re: More systemdCrap2Carlos E.R.
13 Mar 25 i i  i i       `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i i  i +* Re: More systemdCrap16David W. Hodgins
11 Mar 25 i i  i i`* Re: More systemdCrap15The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i i +* Re: More systemdCrap13Pancho
11 Mar 25 i i  i i i+* Re: More systemdCrap10John Ames
11 Mar 25 i i  i i ii+* Re: More systemdCrap4Pancho
11 Mar 25 i i  i i iii`* Re: More systemdCrap3John Ames
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11 Mar 25 i i  i i iii `- Re: More systemdCrap1The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i  i i ii+* Re: More systemdCrap2D
12 Mar 25 i i  i i iii`- Re: More systemdCrap1Carlos E.R.
12 Mar 25 i i  i i ii`* Re: More systemdCrap3Carlos E.R.
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11 Mar 25 i i  i i i`- Re: More systemdCrap1D
12 Mar 25 i i  i i `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i i  i +- Re: More systemdCrap1TJ
12 Mar 25 i i  i `* Re: More systemdCrap2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
12 Mar 25 i i  i  `- Re: More systemdCrap1Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i i  `* Re: More systemdCrap8The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i i   `* Re: More systemdCrap7John McCue
11 Mar 25 i i    `* Re: More systemdCrap6Pancho
11 Mar 25 i i     +* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
12 Mar 25 i i     i+- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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10 Mar 25 i +- Re: More systemdCrap1Dan Espen
10 Mar 25 i `* Re: More systemdCrap14Dan Espen
10 Mar 25 i  `* Re: More systemdCrap13The Natural Philosopher
10 Mar 25 i   +* Re: More systemdCrap10Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i   i+* Re: More systemdCrap5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i   ii`* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i   ii +* Re: More systemdCrap2The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i   ii i`- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i   ii `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i   i`* Re: More systemdCrap4The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i   i +* Re: More systemdCrap2Carlos E.R.
11 Mar 25 i   i i`- Re: More systemdCrap1The Natural Philosopher
11 Mar 25 i   i `- Re: More systemdCrap1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
11 Mar 25 i   `* Re: More systemdCrap2Dan Espen
11 Mar 25 i    `- Re: More systemdCrap1The Natural Philosopher
13 Mar 25 `* Re: More systemdCrap14Richard Kettlewell
13 Mar 25  `* Re: More systemdCrap13Carlos E.R.
13 Mar 25   `* Re: More systemdCrap12Lawrence D'Oliveiro
14 Mar 25    `* Re: More systemdCrap11Carlos E.R.
14 Mar 25     `* Re: More systemdCrap10Lawrence D'Oliveiro
15 Mar 25      +- Re: More systemdCrap1vallor
16 Mar 25      `* Re: More systemdCrap8Carlos E.R.
17 Mar 25       `* Re: More systemdCrap7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 25        `* Re: More systemdCrap6Carlos E.R.
18 Mar 25         `* Re: More systemdCrap5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Mar 25          `* Re: More systemdCrap4Carlos E.R.
18 Mar 25           +* Re: More systemdCrap2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Mar 25           i`- Re: More systemdCrap1Carlos E.R.
19 Mar 25           `- Re: More systemdCrap1The Natural Philosopher

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