Sujet : Re: F2FS On USB Sticks?
De : c186282 (at) *nospam* nnada.net (c186282)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.miscDate : 26. Mar 2025, 09:22:58
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On 3/26/25 12:39 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 14:20:06 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/03/2025 12:31, c186282 wrote:
On 3/25/25 7:13 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 25/03/2025 05:18, c186282 wrote:
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Oh, if a MHz or so is enough, the 8051 is STILL a great chip.
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That must have been 50 years ago., Things have moved on
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Nah ... a MHz is still good for LOTS of uses !
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Cant program 8051 in C IIRC
https://sdcc.sourceforge.net/
afaik there never was a C compiler for the MCS-48 family but the MCS-51
family had a luxurious amount of space (relatively)
And its bigger than a pi PICO!
https://www.keil.com/dd/chips/all/8051.htm
Easier to solder ! :-)
Those aren't your grandfather's 8051s. Your ABS or TPS doesn't need a
Cortex-M4.
My point here is that not every app requires
an Nvidia or i9 sucking up mass amounts of
power to, what, run a coffee-pot or home
alarm or microwave ???
Frankly an ancient 16F84 with an RC clock can
do all that's required with such things and
more. One MHz, HALF a MHz ... good enough
and for just a trickle of power.
Actually, the 12Fxxx chips may be enough.
Look up the Epson nano-power FOUR-bit chips.
Everything you'd ever need for a huge spectrum
of devices/applications.
A lot of people love PICOs, and I can see why,
but they're not the best solution to EVERYTHING.
ANYway, don't diss the '51 ... damned good chip
and, for some uses, STILL. If you can't do ASM
and can't find a 'C' compiler there were some
BASIC compilers that'd get the job done nicely.
Oh, if nobody's ever noticed, the Ard UNO has a
SOCKETED chip. You can use the Uno as the programming
fixture, put in a new chip, program it ... stick the
chips into your OWN custom boards. Just enough zap
for lots of things (and a good low-power library
for like solar-powered projects).
8051s and functional relatives can be had at
Mouser and DigiKey.
Try :
http://systronix.com/BCI51/BCI51DAT.PDF for good dev products.
There may still even be an ancient rec from me in there :-)
Oh, the DS-5000s were the ones with the backup batt
built in ....