Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

On 4/5/25 9:08 PM, Rich wrote:

c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:

   As for the govt drones (half of which seem to be 'probationary'
   employees yet getting all the perks)

 
Do note that in the US federal govt, the meaning of a "probationary
employee" is very different from the normal private sector usage (it
is unfortunate the statue writers chose 'probationary' for their
word, but here we are).

 
  Well ... HERE WE ARE .......
 
  Politics is about *appearances* more than any realities.
 
  If I hear "probationary" I think some Gen-Z/A2 dink kinda part-time
  drones who don't deserve any consideration.

Yes, and that's probably what the rest of the country thinks, since
unless they've been a govt. employee at some point, they would never
have had a chance to learn the "government" meaning.  As I said, it is
unfortunate the statute writers chose the word "probationary", but they
did, so it is the word used.

It simply means they have been on the job for less than one year,
and what is different for 'probationary' employess is they don't
have all of the usual protections from arbitrary and capricious
firings as those who have been on the job for more than one year. 
The purpose is to give the govt a one year window to see if the
employee actually can do the job, and allow an easier time of laying
them off if it turns out they can't do the job.

 
  Um, WHY so many <1yr people ??? Sounds like a Joe
  initiative to reinforce the bureaucracy/deep-state.

Most realistic reason, given the number of people employed by the fed:
there is a constant churn of old workers retiring (or dying) off and
others who quit to go elsewhere with the accompanyng new hires being
hired to replace those that have left.  Just that, given size size of
the fed, without any "joe initiatives" would produce a quite large
count of folks in "probationary" status, more than enough for the
numbers being quoted in the press.  Another quirk of the govt. 
"probationary" status is if one changes jobs within the govt, one
becomes "probationary" for the first year of the new job.  So a portion
of the "probationary" workers have more than a year total govt
experience, but are "probationary" because they switched jobs within
the fed.

  So, FIRE them all !

And with that, the workers that make sure your prescription drugs won't
accidentally poison you, or those that make sure your steak does not
include a deadly does of salmonella, or those that make sure you get
your social security check (if one is drawing one), or those who make
sure one's medicare payments go through for medical services (for those
old enough to be forced to be on medicare), or the forest service
workers rescuing hikers who get themselves hopelessly lost in the
woods, or a whole host of other services that many have no idea is
being provided by the federal workforce.

   well, big/deep state is a POWER BASE and TAPPABLE
   CASH FLOW for some of the people who are REALLY in
   charge, so they DO freak about that kind of stuff.

 
The federal employees never were the "deep state".

 
  Oh, please !!!
 
  If not 'part', then 'pawns'.

One could argue 'pawns' convincingly.  And as well, no 'pawn' (on a
chessboard or in the fed) is "calling the shots" either.  The "deep
state" would be the ones "calling the shots" rather than the lowly
pieces on the board that are being moved about by the "shot caller".

Right now, the 'pawns' are being fired, while the 'chess players'
remain around.  That's hardly clearing the "deep state", to leave
around the ones that were calling the shots.