Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later

Sujet : Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later
De : ldo (at) *nospam* nz.invalid (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 26. Apr 2025, 23:56:22

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On Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:08:53 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

The reality is that storage devices are in a better position to manage
this than OS kernels are ...

But storage devices cannot know how they are used, as part of an array, or
an LVM logical volume which is carved out of a volume group, or whatever.
Or how the filesystem is structured on top of that. Only the OS knows
this.

Does the drive know how the journalling works, or where the redundant
superblocks are located? No, it doesn’t. What is the algorithm for
spreading out those copies of the superblock to try to ensure that a
single head crash is unlikely to destroy them all? Does the drive itself
help with this? No.

Date	Sujet	#	Auteur
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	49	Eli the Bearded
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Eli the Bearded
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	45	Andy Burns
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	42	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	41	Jim Jackson
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	39	Richard Kettlewell
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	37	Pancho
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Richard Kettlewell
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	35	Computer Nerd Kev
20 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Computer Nerd Kev
21 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	33	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	32	Carlos E.R.
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	22	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	17	Carlos E.R.
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	15	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	The Natural Philosopher
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Pancho
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	10	candycanearter07
24 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	9	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	8	candycanearter07
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	7	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	6	John Ames
28 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	Richard Kettlewell
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	The Natural Philosopher
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Richard Kettlewell
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
29 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	3	Richard Kettlewell
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	The Natural Philosopher
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	9	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	8	Carlos E.R.
24 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	7	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	6	Carlos E.R.
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	4	The Natural Philosopher
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	Richard Kettlewell
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
18 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	2	The Natural Philosopher
19 Apr 25	Re: Shutdown - 25 Years Later	1	Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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