Re: Anybody Using IPv6?

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Sujet : Re: Anybody Using IPv6?
De : not (at) *nospam* telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Groupes : comp.os.linux.misc
Date : 22. May 2025, 00:10:37
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Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-21 16:52, Marc Haber wrote:
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2025-05-21 13:16, Marc Haber wrote:
I think that the local resolver should? also refrain from asking for
AAAA records if the local system doesn't have IPv6, but I don't know
whether this special-case handling is implemented at all. And I'm too
lazy to look that up.
>
But all this needs to be taken into account before someone can comment
about speed of one IP protocol compared to the other on a level that
is beyond passing myths.
>
It just is a perceived fact. On some machines, if an application gets
back from the system a list of addresses to try, and tries IPv6 first
when there is no actual IPv6 internet connectivity, there is a small
delay waiting for the request to fail, and then try the next address in
the list.
 
pcap/strace or it didn't happen.
 
Asking for a trace _now_ is ridiculous. It certainly did happen, and to
to several people. Years ago.

Looks like it was only last year when I encountered package list
downloads failing in Aptitude on an IPv4-only VPS due to it trying
to connect on IPv6.

Disabling IPv6 on there made perfect sense - it's intended to be a
stable system, not a testing ground for applications. I knew IPv6
wasn't available, and I'd seen such behaviour before in an
unimportant program on another system, so really it's my fault for
leaving the door open to such bugs by pointlessly leaving the
kernel's IPv6 support enabled.

Please note that _broken_ IPv6, for example when the router announces
an IPv6 but the network doesn't return a host unreachable ICMPv6
message from the place where connectivity is missing, will cause an
IPv6-enabled application to wait for the time out. But that is an
error in the _network_ setup, and should not happen in the case where
the end system (the one with the application running) has v6 enabled
on a non-v6-enabled network.

But if that network error has been made, you'll avoid trouble if
IPv6 is disabled. So if you know IPv6 isn't available anyway,
there's a clear advantage to disabling it in the kernel and dodging
these potential sources of failure even if they "should not
happen".

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 May 25 * Anybody Using IPv6?97Farley Flud
17 May19:01 +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?89vallor
17 May19:13 i+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?62Shadow
18 May01:11 ii`* Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)61vallor
18 May09:02 ii +* Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)50Marc Haber
18 May21:27 ii i+* Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)3rbowman
19 May07:13 ii ii`* Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)2Marc Haber
19 May08:24 ii ii `- Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)1rbowman
19 May20:26 ii i`* Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)46vallor
20 May09:00 ii i `* Re: Linux advocacy (was: Re: Anybody Using IPv6?)45Marc Haber
20 May09:36 ii i  +* Re: Linux advocacy3Nuno Silva
20 May10:46 ii i  i+- Re: Linux advocacy1Carlos E. R.
20 May11:20 ii i  i`- Re: Linux advocacy1Marc Haber
20 May10:38 ii i  `* Re: Linux advocacy41The Natural Philosopher
20 May11:21 ii i   `* Re: Linux advocacy40Marc Haber
20 May11:33 ii i    +* Re: Linux advocacy2The Natural Philosopher
20 May16:48 ii i    i`- Re: Linux advocacy1Marc Haber
20 May12:04 ii i    `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?37Carlos E. R.
20 May16:49 ii i     `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?36Marc Haber
20 May17:02 ii i      `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?35The Natural Philosopher
20 May17:34 ii i       `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?34Carlos E. R.
20 May18:43 ii i        `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?33Marc Haber
20 May18:52 ii i         `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?32Carlos E. R.
20 May22:14 ii i          +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?26Marc Haber
21 May02:46 ii i          i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?25Carlos E. R.
21 May07:05 ii i          i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?24Marc Haber
21 May09:13 ii i          i  +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?21Nuno Silva
21 May09:42 ii i          i  i+- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
21 May12:16 ii i          i  i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?19Marc Haber
21 May13:00 ii i          i  i +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?15Carlos E. R.
21 May13:30 ii i          i  i i+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?6Marco Moock
21 May13:45 ii i          i  i ii`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?5Carlos E. R.
21 May15:53 ii i          i  i ii +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Marc Haber
21 May17:30 ii i          i  i ii i`- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
21 May16:16 ii i          i  i ii `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Marco Moock
21 May17:31 ii i          i  i ii  `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
21 May15:52 ii i          i  i i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?8Marc Haber
21 May16:47 ii i          i  i i +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2The Natural Philosopher
21 May20:14 ii i          i  i i i`- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
21 May18:16 ii i          i  i i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?5Carlos E. R.
22 May00:10 ii i          i  i i  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4Computer Nerd Kev
22 May08:27 ii i          i  i i   +- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
22 May17:16 ii i          i  i i   `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Carlos E. R.
22 May19:51 ii i          i  i i    `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
21 May17:35 ii i          i  i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3Richard Kettlewell
21 May20:18 ii i          i  i  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Marc Haber
21 May21:10 ii i          i  i   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Richard Kettlewell
21 May18:22 ii i          i  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Carlos E. R.
21 May20:21 ii i          i   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
21 May04:16 ii i          `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?5vallor
21 May07:07 ii i           +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3Marc Haber
21 May13:45 ii i           i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2vallor
21 May16:19 ii i           i `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
21 May09:39 ii i           `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
18 May09:46 ii +* Re: Linux advocacy2Richard Kettlewell
18 May09:49 ii i`- Re: Linux advocacy1Richard Kettlewell
18 May10:07 ii `* Re: Linux advocacy8Carlos E. R.
19 May07:14 ii  `* Re: Linux advocacy7Marc Haber
19 May11:27 ii   `* Re: Linux advocacy6Carlos E. R.
19 May13:54 ii    `* Re: Linux advocacy5Marc Haber
19 May14:37 ii     `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4Carlos E. R.
19 May15:36 ii      `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3Marc Haber
19 May16:31 ii       +- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
19 May17:58 ii       `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1The Natural Philosopher
17 May19:17 i+- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1%
17 May19:50 i+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Carlos E. R.
17 May19:52 ii`- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1%
18 May08:26 i+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?22Popping Mad
20 May05:17 ii+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?7c186282
20 May10:35 iii+* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?5The Natural Philosopher
20 May11:14 iiii`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4Marc Haber
20 May11:35 iiii `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3The Natural Philosopher
20 May16:45 iiii  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Marc Haber
20 May17:00 iiii   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1The Natural Philosopher
20 May10:55 iii`- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
20 May08:59 ii`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?14Marc Haber
20 May09:21 ii +- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Nuno Silva
20 May10:37 ii `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?12The Natural Philosopher
20 May11:15 ii  +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4Marc Haber
20 May11:33 ii  i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3The Natural Philosopher
20 May16:47 ii  i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Marc Haber
20 May17:01 ii  i  `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1The Natural Philosopher
21 May04:42 ii  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?7c186282
21 May07:03 ii   +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?5Marc Haber
21 May16:21 ii   i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4Bobbie Sellers
21 May20:13 ii   i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3Marc Haber
21 May23:09 ii   i  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2Nuno Silva
22 May08:25 ii   i   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
21 May09:47 ii   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Carlos E. R.
18 May12:16 i`- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Chris Ahlstrom
18 May08:59 `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?7Marc Haber
18 May10:12  `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?6Carlos E. R.
18 May21:18   +* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?4rbowman
19 May07:11   i`* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?3Marc Haber
19 May08:11   i `* Re: Anybody Using IPv6?2rbowman
19 May08:33   i  `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber
19 May07:09   `- Re: Anybody Using IPv6?1Marc Haber

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