Re: Distros specifically designed for children

On 26/05/2025 12:11, Borax Man wrote:

On 2025-05-25, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

Le 25-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit :

On 2025-05-24, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

Le 24-05-2025, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> a écrit :

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Canonical basically treat their users the way Microsoft does, perhaps
even worse.  I never recommend Ubuntu to anyone for that reason, in
fact, I tell anyone interested in Linux to *avoid* it.

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I'm not convinced by your explanation. For a new Linux user, Ubuntu is a
good way to start. First, as Ubuntu installs a lot of things, a new user
will have everything ready to start without the need to look for
solution each time he want to do something. Second, as Ubuntu is well
spread, if a new user has an issue, the chances someone else get it
first is important, so it will be easier to solve.
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You can be against Ubuntu because of snaps, but it's not the reason you
are against it.
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The whole point of Free Software, is you, the user, get to choose what
to do, how to do it.  Its your computer, your software, and if you want
to run everything as root, you can.

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So what? Ubuntu doesn't stop you to do that. Even if it's stupid, you
can do it.
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I didn't say Ubuntu stops you from doing that.

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It really looked that way.
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My point was if you don't like a particular distro, or their
philosophy, you can move away.

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That's the reason why I'm not using Ubuntu anymore. But it's not the
reason I wouldn't consider Ubuntu being a good choice for a new Linux
user. Because a new user doesn't know about a philosophy or differences
between the default choices done by the distro. A new Linux user want an
easy way to discover Linux. So I know why I choose something, a new
Linux user doesn't and don't want to care to discover Linux.
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But Your point was well hidden. Because it looked like you consider a
new Linux user must discover and know everything before being able to
use Linux for the first time.
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 Those that I know personally who were interested, did specifically
mention freedom, and moving away from corporate control and politics.
Usability is an issue, but they should understand what they are getting
into.
 You see, they just assumed that Linux was free of politics, and
opinionated vendors, but that isn't necessarily the case.

Well certainly if you visit c.o.l.a
But really I have no dog in this fight. What I run works for me and I know it fairly well.
I am not interested in 'Linux, the technical adventure'
I want 'Linux, the stable secure free desktop OS' these days.
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