Re: Wayland or X11, was: Re: Upcoming time boundary events

On 6/17/25 18:56, Simon Clubley wrote:

On 2025-06-14, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>
Yes, there is some Linux-envy. For example, while systemd itself is Linux-
only, some in the BSD camp have been working on a systemd-looklike called
?InitWare?. Also they see the need to move off X11 at some point and onto
Wayland. Linux containers are also another area which the BSDs cannot
quite match functionally. And there?s the network stack etc etc.
>

 WTH is this dogma about forced moving from X11 to Wayland all about ? :-(
 It seems that the old approach of gradually introducing the "new thing"
as an alternative while fixing any limitations or issues then identified
(when compared to the "old way") no longer exists.
 If you introduce a replacement something, it should at least do everything
the old "something" did, yet the Wayland people are so full of themselves
they think they can just force the use of Wayland without considering how
it breaks existing applications (including major ones such as KiCad).
 Are the Wayland people being secretly funded by Microsoft ? :-(
 Simon.
 

Looks political, in the same way that I saw systemd as a power grab by RedHat. Will only ever be used here if it provides all the functionality
of X, and has been well proven for years. Doesn't affect me at all,
as FreeBSD is the os of choice for development work here, and much more.
As an aside, have you looked as the coding quality and organisation
in the systemd sources ?. Pretty dire and sloppy.
Chris