Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 15

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Sujet : Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 15
De : johnrreagan (at) *nospam* earthlink.net (John Reagan)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 24. Feb 2025, 22:55:32
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On 2/24/2025 4:27 PM, John Dallman wrote:
In article <vpi9sr$19atf$1@dont-email.me>, seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid
(Stephen Hoffman) wrote:
 
The Itanium compiler optimizer just doesn't (and can't) know enough
about the system memory state, yes. Among other (no pun intended)
issues.
>
The attempt to address that included providing run-time feedback
into the executables; providing post-link, post-execution tuning.
(Caliper / Atom / OM / etc.)
 "Attempt" is about right.
 I did several years porting work to Itanium. I tried run-time feedback
zero times: doing the link of the instrumented build took over an hour,
up from about a minute, because it was doing all the code generation at
link time.
 The claim was "you only do this for the build you'll ship." My response
was "The compiler is so immature that I'm reporting new bugs every week,
and you want me to give the compiler new and difficult challenges?"
 I never heard of anyone who got anywhere with profile-guided optimisation
on Itanium. Have you?
 John
Actually, the NonStop Itanium kernel is built using PGO.  Apparently, for their test workload of transactions, the savings was a measurable "few" percent.  [I think in the 3-5% range but I'm not sure anymore]

Date Sujet#  Auteur
4 Nov 24 * Itanium support is back in GCC 1526Simon Clubley
4 Nov 24 `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 1525Arne Vajhøj
7 Nov 24  `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 1524gcalliet
7 Nov 24   `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 1523Arne Vajhøj
8 Nov 24    +* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 154gcalliet
8 Nov 24    i+- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Arne Vajhøj
8 Nov 24    i+- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151John Dallman
11 Nov 24    i`- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Waldek Hebisch
23 Feb 25    +* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 158Scott Dorsey
23 Feb 25    i`* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 157John Dallman
24 Feb 25    i `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 156Stephen Hoffman
24 Feb 25    i  +- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151John Reagan
24 Feb 25    i  `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 154John Dallman
24 Feb 25    i   +* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 152John Reagan
25 Feb 25    i   i`- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151John Dallman
24 Feb 25    i   `- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Stephen Hoffman
24 Feb 25    `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 1510Michael S
24 Feb 25     +- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Robert A. Brooks
24 Feb 25     +* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 153Simon Clubley
24 Feb 25     i`* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 152Arne Vajhøj
26 Feb 25     i `- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Simon Clubley
24 Feb 25     `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 155Arne Vajhøj
24 Feb 25      `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 154Michael S
24 Feb 25       `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 153Arne Vajhøj
24 Feb 25        `* Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 152John Reagan
25 Feb 25         `- Re: Itanium support is back in GCC 151Dan Cross

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