Re: Bootcamp

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Sujet : Re: Bootcamp
De : gerard.calliet (at) *nospam* pia-sofer.fr (gcalliet)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 02. Jul 2025, 12:51:22
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Le 01/07/2025 à 19:27, Simon Clubley a écrit :
On 2025-07-01, gcalliet <gerard.calliet@pia-sofer.fr> wrote:
Le 07/06/2025 à 09:06, Subcommandante XDelta a écrit :
Enquiring minds want to know - just what went down at Malmo?
Business as usual.
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The supplier is the center of the ecosystem and knows what is good for you.
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The problem is: did VMS ecosystem survived thanks to "business as
usual"? I remember discutions here in 2013 where everybody known VMS
will dye, because of the standard rules of business.
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Summary: VSI is redoing the same mistake as Digital: because we have got
a superior and genial offer we have not to hear about the way the
ecosystem and its context have evolved. The bad side of the excellence.
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 Can you offer specific examples ? It's hard to have a discussion unless
there are specific concerns listed.
 Simon.
 
Some points:
Very good bootcamp, like the old ones, but without the official presence of users club. So: how the needs of the actors could be officialy heard?
Camiel explain very clearly the strategy choosed, and explain the way users should go. How can we do if this strategy is not good for us?
Darya says "our actual goal is making our customers go to x86". Is it sure all the VMS users can go as fast as possible to x86?
I know people who need bare metal solutions, there were someone at the bootcamp who ask this question. No answer. It is not the strategy.
Presentation of the best (for VSI) new solution: going to the cloud (VSI Cloud offer based on Oracle cloud) and final possibility being some Saas. Not any discussion about this strategy except "the times are changing, we go with them".
Every point has somehow strong justifications. But I think we are missing a more collaborating brainstorming about the needs, pace of evolutions, goals...
In the old times, when we had a strong world wide compagny, and when everything was at its beginning, ok. Now there is a complex ecosystem trying to rebound. Perhaps another way of building strategies could help.
Gérard Calliet

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 25 * Bootcamp51Arne Vajhøj
21 May 25 +* Re: Bootcamp5Robert A. Brooks
21 May 25 i+* Re: Bootcamp2David Meyer
22 May 25 ii`- Re: Bootcamp1Subcommandante XDelta
23 May 25 i+- Re: Bootcamp1Stephen Hoffman
3 Jun 25 i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
3 Jun 25 +* Re: Bootcamp4Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25 i`* Re: Bootcamp3Craig A. Berry
6 Jun 25 i `* Re: Bootcamp2Arne Vajhøj
6 Jun 25 i  `- Re: Bootcamp1Craig A. Berry
7 Jun 25 `* Re: Bootcamp41Subcommandante XDelta
7 Jun 25  +* Re: Bootcamp17Lawrence D'Oliveiro
7 Jun 25  i`* Re: Bootcamp16Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i `* Re: Bootcamp15Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  +- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  +* Re: Bootcamp8Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i+* Re: Bootcamp2Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  ii`- Re: Bootcamp1Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i`* Re: Bootcamp5Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i  i +- Re: Bootcamp1Dan Cross
9 Jun 25  i  i +* Re: Bootcamp2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 Jun 25  i  i i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
10 Jun 25  i  i `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
9 Jun 25  i  `* Re: Bootcamp5Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i   +* Re: Bootcamp2Robert A. Brooks
9 Jun 25  i   i`- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
9 Jun 25  i   +- Re: Bootcamp1Chris Townley
10 Jun 25  i   `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
1 Jul 25  `* Re: Bootcamp23gcalliet
1 Jul 25   +* Re: Bootcamp4Simon Clubley
2 Jul 25   i`* Re: Bootcamp3gcalliet
2 Jul 25   i +- Re: Bootcamp1Arne Vajhøj
2 Jul 25   i `- Re: Bootcamp1Simon Clubley
2 Jul 25   `* Re: Bootcamp18Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Jul 25    `* Re: Bootcamp17gcalliet
3 Jul 25     `* Re: Bootcamp16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Jul15:56      `* Re: Bootcamp15Arne Vajhøj
3 Jul16:27       +* Re: Bootcamp3Dan Cross
3 Jul20:14       i`* OS emulation [was Re: Bootcamp]2Rich Alderson
3 Jul21:32       i `- Re: OS emulation [was Re: Bootcamp]1Dan Cross
3 Jul17:33       +* Re: Bootcamp2bill
3 Jul17:47       i`- Re: Bootcamp1Chris Townley
3 Jul23:39       `* Re: Bootcamp9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Jul01:56        +* Re: Bootcamp2Arne Vajhøj
4 Jul02:40        i`- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul01:36        `* Re: Bootcamp6Waldek Hebisch
6 Jul04:22         +* Re: Bootcamp4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul13:52         i`* Re: Bootcamp3Waldek Hebisch
6 Jul16:04         i +- Re: Bootcamp1bill
6 Jul22:38         i `- Re: Bootcamp1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 Jul16:02         `- Re: Bootcamp1bill

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