Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns

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Sujet : Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 21. Oct 2024, 02:32:05
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On 10/20/2024 9:28 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 21:17:06 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 10/20/2024 9:10 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 20:32:41 -0400, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
On 10/20/2024 8:28 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
Transaction resilience is a standard thing with databases (and
journalling filesystems) going back decades.
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Yes.
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But they can't do miracles.
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They can ensure, to a high degree of confidence, that the on-disk
structure is consistent. That is to say, each transaction is either
recorded as completed or not recorded at all, nothing in-between.
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Only if it can rely on a successful write not being lost.
 In other words, that the disk controller is not lying to you when it says
a write has completed?
Just that is is not lying when it says that it got it.

To be sure to come up ok after a system crash it is either write to
plates or write to a cache that will survive the system crash (raid
controller cache with battery backup).
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Unfortunately, that controller cache can’t guarantee any of these
things: it can’t do miracles either, all it does is add another point
of failure.
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Yes - it can.
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It is not impacted by a system crash.
 Now you are really starting to sound like a believer in miracles ...
A system crash and restart will blank RAM and wipe out all OS
and filesystem caches - it will not impact the cache in the
RAID controller.
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Oct 24 * RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns44Richard Jordan
18 Oct 24 +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns36Craig A. Berry
19 Oct 24 i+* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns5Arne Vajhøj
19 Oct 24 ii `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Arne Vajhøj
19 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Oct 24 ii    `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 i+* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns27Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns26Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns25Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns24Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns23Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii    `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns22Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii     `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii      +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns16Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii      i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Oct 24 ii      i `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns14Arne Vajhøj
20 Oct 24 ii      i  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns13Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i   `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns12Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i    `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns11Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i     `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns10Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i      `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i       `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns8Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i        `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i         `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns6Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i          `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i           `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns4Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 ii      i            `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      i             `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Simon Clubley
21 Oct 24 ii      i              `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Dan Cross
20 Oct 24 ii      +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Craig A. Berry
20 Oct 24 ii      i`- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
21 Oct 24 ii      `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Simon Clubley
21 Oct 24 ii       `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Arne Vajhøj
21 Oct 24 i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Richard Jordan
21 Oct 24 i `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Craig A. Berry
19 Oct 24 +- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Volker Halle
5 Nov 24 +* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Richard Jordan
5 Nov 24 i`* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2abrsvc
5 Nov 24 i `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Richard Jordan
5 Nov 24 `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns3Volker Halle
5 Nov 24  `* Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns2Richard Jordan
7 Nov 24   `- Re: RX2800 sporadic disk I/O slowdowns1Volker Halle

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