Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux

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Sujet : Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux
De : arne (at) *nospam* vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 03. Dec 2024, 17:51:01
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On 12/3/2024 11:10 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
In article <vina48$3sjr$6@dont-email.me>,
Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
On 12/3/2024 10:36 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
In article <vin68p$3sjr$4@dont-email.me>,
Arne Vajhøj  <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
KVM runs in Linux not on Linux. Which makes it type 1.
>
Nope.  KVM is dependent on Linux at this point.  The claim that
it is a type-1 hypervisor is predicated on the idea that it was
separable from Linux, but I don't think anyone believes that
anymore.
>
It is the opposite. KVM is type 1 not because it is separable
from Linux but because it is inseparable from Linux.
 Kinda.  The claim is that KVM turns Linux+KVM into a type-1
hypervisor; that is, the entire combination becomes a the HV.
That's sort of a silly distinction, though, since the real
differentiator, defined by Goldberg, is whether or not the VMM
makes use of existing system services, which KVM very much does.
ESXi is basic OS functionality and virtualization services
in a single kernel.
Linux+KVM is basic OS functionality and virtualization services
in a single kernel.
They are logical working the same way.
The differences are not in how they work, but in history
and reusability in other contexts:
* Linux existed before KVM
* Linux has more functionality so it can be and is used without KVM
But type 1 vs type 2 should depend on how it works not on
history and reusability in other contexts.
Arne

Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 Nov 24 * VMWARE/ESXi Linux51David Turner
27 Nov 24 +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Robert A. Brooks
27 Nov 24 +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux38Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Nov 24 i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux37John Dallman
28 Nov 24 i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux36Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux35Matthew R. Wilson
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux10Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux9Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux7Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i i+* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux4Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i ii`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i ii `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   i ii  `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Dennis Boone
3 Dec 24 i   i i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i   i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
28 Nov 24 i   i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1John Dallman
28 Nov 24 i   +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 i   i+- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1John Dallman
29 Nov 24 i   i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i   `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux19Waldek Hebisch
3 Dec 24 i    +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux15Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Dec 24 i    i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux14Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux4Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux3Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i i   `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
3 Dec 24 i    i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 Dec 24 i    i i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux6Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i i  +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i  i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i i  `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
4 Dec 24 i    i i   `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
4 Dec 24 i    i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dave Froble
3 Dec 24 i    +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj
3 Dec 24 i    `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dan Cross
28 Nov 24 +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
28 Nov 24 i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Nov 24 +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Gcalliet
2 Dec 24 `* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux8Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 Dec 24  +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux6John Dallman
4 Dec 24  i`* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux5Simon Clubley
4 Dec 24  i +- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Simon Clubley
4 Dec 24  i +* Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux2Arne Vajhøj
5 Dec 24  i i`- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Simon Clubley
6 Dec 24  i `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Dave Froble
3 Dec 24  `- Re: VMWARE/ESXi Linux1Arne Vajhøj

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