Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS

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Sujet : Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS
De : vlf (at) *nospam* star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 25. Mar 2025, 23:39:25
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On 23/03/2025 12:03 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2025 10:55:00 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
 
EiffelStudio is an Integrated Development Environment (IDE), that enable
programmers to produce correct, reliable, maintainable software and
control the development process. If you want to create fast, robust,
scalable applications, then EiffelStudio gives you a cost-effective
option.
 
I’ve lost count of the number of times people have said they have a
solution to all the world’s programming problems, just so long as you
change your entire process to do things their way.
 
We live in a multilingual, multiplatform, multi-build-system world. Nobody
wants a new language or IDE that requires you to conform to its particular
view of how to do things.
 

Well, VSI, needs to focus on meeting the needs of the rusted on VMS
shops, first off, and primarily.

However, the VMS system needs to be revitalised, and that means
providing certified compilers for modern languages.

Rust is a 110% no brainer.

Not to stray off-topic, but a VSI/ELN RTOS, written in Rust, would be
way cool, and may thrill the industrial process guys in the VMS shops.

Erlang and Elixir would be most attractive as well:

https://www.erlang.org/

https://elixir-lang.org/

Not that I can weigh in with any technical quality, on such matters, the
plethora of modern languages puts my head in a spin.

I hark back from a time of blinking lights, piano key consoles, and
false floors, and the likes of Fortran, Algol, Cobol, PL/1, and APL.

Come to think of it, VSI/VMS/APL would be way cool - just because! - Two
Big Kens - Ken Iverson, and Ken Olsen.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
23 Mar 25 * Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS68Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Mar 25 +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Scott Dorsey
25 Mar 25 `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS66Subcommandante XDelta
26 Mar 25  +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1jeffrey_dsi
26 Mar 25  +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS41David Meyer
26 Mar 25  i`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS40Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS4Dan Cross
26 Mar 25  i i`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i i +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i i `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Dan Cross
26 Mar 25  i +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS8gcalliet
26 Mar 25  i i`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS7Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i i `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS6Simon Clubley
26 Mar 25  i i  +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i i  `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS4Michael S
27 Mar 25  i i   `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Mar 25  i i    `* [OT] A64Fx was: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Michael S
27 Mar 25  i i     `- Re: [OT] A64Fx was: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Mar 25  i +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Simon Clubley
26 Mar 25  i i`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Mar 25  i i`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25  i i `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Mar 25  i `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS22Craig A. Berry
27 Mar 25  i  `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS21Arne Vajhøj
27 Mar 25  i   +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Mar 25  i   `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS19Simon Clubley
28 Mar 25  i    +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Arne Vajhøj
28 Mar 25  i    i+- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Mar 25  i    i`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Simon Clubley
28 Mar 25  i    +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1John Reagan
29 Mar 25  i    `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS14Waldek Hebisch
29 Mar 25  i     +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS9Chris Townley
29 Mar 25  i     i+* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Waldek Hebisch
29 Mar 25  i     ii`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Craig A. Berry
29 Mar 25  i     i+* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3bill
30 Mar 25  i     ii`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Arne Vajhøj
30 Mar 25  i     ii `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
30 Mar 25  i     i+* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS2Arne Vajhøj
30 Mar 25  i     ii`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
30 Mar 25  i     i`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Dan Cross
30 Mar 25  i     `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS4Arne Vajhøj
30 Mar 25  i      `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Waldek Hebisch
30 Mar 25  i       +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Dan Cross
30 Mar 25  i       `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Mar 25  `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS23Simon Clubley
26 Mar 25   +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
26 Mar 25   `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS21Subcommandante XDelta
26 Mar 25    +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS10Arne Vajhøj
27 Mar 25    i+* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS5Subcommandante XDelta
27 Mar 25    ii`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS4gcalliet
30 Mar 25    ii `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Subcommandante XDelta
30 Mar 25    ii  +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Single Stage to Orbit
31 Mar 25    ii  `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1gcalliet
27 Mar 25    i`* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
27 Mar 25    i `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Arne Vajhøj
27 Mar 25    i  +- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
28 Mar 25    i  `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Simon Clubley
27 Mar 25    `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS10bill
27 Mar 25     `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS9Arne Vajhøj
27 Mar 25      +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Mar 25      i+- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
28 Mar 25      i`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Arne Vajhøj
28 Mar 25      `* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS5Simon Clubley
28 Mar 25       +* Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS3Chris Townley
29 Mar 25       i+- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Dave Froble
31 Mar 25       i`- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Simon Clubley
29 Mar 25       `- Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS1Andreas Eder

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