Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(

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Sujet : Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(
De : cross (at) *nospam* spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Groupes : comp.os.vms
Date : 19. Apr 2025, 00:57:27
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Organisation : PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <vtun10$1e6l$1@dont-email.me>, chrisq  <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 4/18/25 18:14, Dan Cross wrote:
In article <vttnam$36p3b$1@dont-email.me>, chrisq  <devzero@nospam.com> wrote:
On 4/16/25 13:17, Simon Clubley wrote:
Read for yourself:
>
https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/16/homeland_security_funding_for_cve/
>
Of course, now that I have called him a clueless cretin in public means
I am now unlikely to be allowed into the US (_if_ I ever wanted to go now).
>
BTW, Mr Orange, on a related subject, you don't build a chip manufacturing
plant within a year or so.
>
Why doesn't industry fund it, and why do so many people think the
taxpayer should fund everything ?.
 
Because it is in the vital interest of national security, for
one.
>
You really think that government oversight over the process of computer
security and bug fixes will improve the outcome ?, I have my doubts.

I did not say that.  What I said is that having a robust means
to record, track and search computer vulnerabilities is in the
vital national interest, so government funding is entirely
appropriate.

It would make sense to have computer security specialists represented
from the security services, but typical government employees do not have
the required knowledgebase, or awareness, to make any difference. If
the governemnt pay for it, they will want to have influence on what
is a technical process, ideally free of politics.
>
Here in the UK, the majority of government employees tend to be from
arts, history, or ppe backgrounds, zero industry or business
experience, risk averse, and change resistant, resulting in little
or nothing getting done for years. They just get in the way.
>
It's an industry problem, let them sort it out, and pay for it.

Bluntly, it's too important to leave --- at least the funding
side --- to the vagueries and often capricious whims of
industry.

        - Dan C.
 

Date Sujet#  Auteur
16 Apr 25 * Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(48Simon Clubley
16 Apr 25 +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(4Dave Froble
16 Apr 25 i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(3Simon Clubley
16 Apr 25 i `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Dave Froble
17 Apr 25 i  `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Mark Berryman
16 Apr 25 +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(8Arne Vajhøj
16 Apr 25 i+* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Arne Vajhøj
16 Apr 25 ii`- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Simon Clubley
16 Apr 25 i+* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Dave Froble
16 Apr 25 ii`- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1David Wade
16 Apr 25 i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(3Simon Clubley
16 Apr 25 i `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Arne Vajhøj
17 Apr 25 i  `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Simon Clubley
18 Apr 25 +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(33chrisq
18 Apr 25 i+* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(23Arne Vajhøj
18 Apr 25 ii`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(22chrisq
19 Apr 25 ii `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(21Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Apr 25 ii  +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(15David Wade
22 Apr 25 ii  i+* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Dave Froble
22 Apr 25 ii  ii`- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1David Wade
22 Apr 25 ii  i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(12Simon Clubley
22 Apr 25 ii  i `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(11Dan Cross
22 Apr 25 ii  i  +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(7David Wade
22 Apr 25 ii  i  i+- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Dan Cross
22 Apr 25 ii  i  i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(5Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 25 ii  i  i +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(3David Wade
24 Apr 25 ii  i  i i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
9 May 25 ii  i  i i `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Scott Dorsey
9 May 25 ii  i  i `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Scott Dorsey
23 Apr 25 ii  i  `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(3bill
23 Apr 25 ii  i   `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Dan Cross
23 Apr 25 ii  i    `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1bill
19 Apr 25 ii  `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(5chrisq
19 Apr 25 ii   +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 25 ii   i`- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Dave Froble
22 Apr 25 ii   `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Arne Vajhøj
22 Apr 25 ii    `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Arne Vajhøj
18 Apr 25 i+* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Arne Vajhøj
18 Apr 25 ii`- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1chrisq
18 Apr 25 i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(7Dan Cross
19 Apr 25 i +* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(5chrisq
19 Apr 25 i i+- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1David Wade
19 Apr 25 i i`* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(3Dan Cross
22 Apr 25 i i `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Dave Froble
22 Apr 25 i i  `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Simon Clubley
22 Apr 25 i `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Dave Froble
25 Apr 25 `* Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(2Richard
25 Apr 25  `- Re: Americans: that clueless cretin you elected just killed the CVE program :-(1Simon Clubley

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